HanoiVillan Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) I mean, I definitely LOL'd, but it won't put people off coming here in totality. I'm sure we'll see a smaller percentage from western Europe, but just as the gastarbeiter system wasn't short of people arriving, neither will we be. EDIT: I should edit this to make clear that I'm not trying to say overall numbers will not go down; I'm sure they will, at least initially. I'm trying [badly] to make the point that the UK will still be seen as a very attractive place to move and work, and that where the system creates openings there will be lots of people looking to come. Edited February 19, 2020 by HanoiVillan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Solve the social care crisis by getting the people in need of social care to go and do it. I guess we'll never know until we try it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted February 19, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 19, 2020 Thatcher's legacy coming into full flower. 1. Destroy unions 2. Abolish h&s regulations 3. Compel claimants to do backbreaking minimum wage labour or have their benefits stopped Back on the chain gang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Has anyone seen any detail regarding whether the youth mobility visa remains (people under 30 being allowed to work 2 years in the UK)? It’s a bit of a right of passage for young Australians or Kiwis to work in a UK bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Has anyone seen any detail regarding whether the youth mobility visa remains (people under 30 being allowed to work 2 years in the UK)? It’s a bit of a right of passage for young Australians or Kiwis to work in a UK bar. it's still on the UK Govt website , long as you score 50 (out of 50 points) on the criteria you can apply ... you can't apply online if you are currently living in North Korea though !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Has anyone seen any detail regarding whether the youth mobility visa remains (people under 30 being allowed to work 2 years in the UK)? Yes, it looks like it will remain in place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Cummings is in the spotlight, but Koch sucker Matthew Elliot and his darling wife are to be watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 In terms of the Youth Mobility Scheme, it would not be a complete surprise if it is extended to EU citizens as part of the negotiations at a later date (but there is no commitment to do this, it's just a possibility). Has anyone seen an explanation of what is meant by 'the required level of English'? Obviously huge differences between A2, B1 or B2 levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 27 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: In terms of the Youth Mobility Scheme, it would not be a complete surprise if it is extended to EU citizens as part of the negotiations at a later date (but there is no commitment to do this, it's just a possibility). Has anyone seen an explanation of what is meant by 'the required level of English'? Obviously huge differences between A2, B1 or B2 levels. It’s ‘B1’ level according to the article in The Independent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 28 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Has anyone seen an explanation of what is meant by 'the required level of English'? Not sure. Probably some sort of written test on an episode of Mind Your Language. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, LondonLax said: It’s ‘B1’ level according to the article in The Independent. Thanks. Here's a video of a candidate taking the B1 test that will probably be the main accepted form of language requirement for anyone who's interested in what that might sound like, and really mainly for @bickster's enjoyment: If anything can persuade him of the need for Brexit, surely it's this! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Isn't the points based system exactly what such lauded countries like Canada and Australia do anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 33 minutes ago, Xela said: Isn't the points based system exactly what such lauded countries like Canada and Australia do anyway? There isn't such a thing as 'the' points based system. There are lots of systems with points as part of them - I believe we run some sort of points based system in part of the immigration system at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 19, 2020 Moderator Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said: If anything can persuade him of the need for Brexit, surely it's this! All that has persuaded me to do is put you on the list Umbrella Manufacturers HanoiVillan Come the glorious day.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 57 minutes ago, Xela said: Isn't the points based system exactly what such lauded countries like Canada and Australia do anyway? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post chrisp65 Posted February 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2020 John Redwood yesterday saying the care system doesn’t need staff recruited from over seas. John, apparently quite an expert on care, suggested what they needed was to invest in greater mechanisation. Doubtless he’s just touting new business for the Redwood 3000 Arse Wipe Omatic. Though to be fair, if anyone in the tory party is working on some mechanical arse interaction device, it’ll be John Redwood. Or possibly absolutely any of the others. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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snowychap Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Though to be fair, if anyone in the tory party is working on some mechanical arse interaction device, it’ll be John Redwood. Or possibly absolutely any of the others. Indeed. If any group ought to have a good grasp on arses it's the Tories. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted February 20, 2020 Author Moderator Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, snowychap said: Indeed. If any group ought to have a good grasp on arses it's the Tories. It's a race to the bottom, isn't it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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