romavillan Posted August 11, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted August 11, 2015 A buyback clause for less than we are paying for him? In an up and coming young player? Have they asked my bollox? Sarcasm meter is required here The real question that needs answering is whether we can get this guy AND loan Januzaj at the same time. Sooo true, and how it affects the net spend negatively or positively based on how many chairs there are at the press conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Indeed, a glorified loan additional is still an astute signing in this instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 not bothered about buy back, its barcelona ffs he has to be unbelieveably good for them to want him back Its not a case of being good enough for Barca though. If they insert a clause that they can buy him back for say £10m, if he has a great season, commanding a value of £20m, they buy him back for £10m and sell him for £20m. Its win win for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylerreznik Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Don't understand all the fuss, if they do insert a buy back (still not confirmed yet) it's prudent business by them, good on them really. No sense in getting worked up about it, a) they are the selling club so have power over us, and they are one of the biggest clubs in the world so have even more power in the negotiations. End of the day we'd be getting an extremely talented kid with huge potential who improves our team massively, and in reality he'd have to perform exceptionally well to even pop up on Barca's radar in the future as I think they'd only think of buying him back if he could hold his own in the first team... If he turned out to be that good, sure we'd lose out $$$ selling him, but we'd gain an awful lot in terms of improved league position, rebuilding our status as a top club etc.. Frankly I'd just be stoked to have such a talent actual sign for us. I imagine it's more likely that he ends up being a very good player, but by that time a new batch of wonder kids has emerged that Barca are more interested in anyways... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I said it when we were first linked. Think about how good he'd have to be over the next few years for Barcelona to actually sign him back. He would have to become one of the best attacking players in world football. If he plays to that level in a villa shirt I won't be hurt about Barcelona buying him back. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted August 11, 2015 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2015 Are we debating the exit of a player we've not signed yet? Good old VT If he has performed well enough for us that they want him back then I think we'll have benefited from the arrangement as well. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 And the bonus is, that fee won't see him go to another Prem team either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylerreznik Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 not bothered about buy back, its barcelona ffs he has to be unbelieveably good for them to want him back Its not a case of being good enough for Barca though. If they insert a clause that they can buy him back for say £10m, if he has a great season, commanding a value of £20m, they buy him back for £10m and sell him for £20m. Its win win for them. Is Arry Redknapp working at Barca now I really doubt they'd go to that much trouble to buy back then immediately re-market a player just because there is an arbitrage in the contract buy back fee and market rate. Lot of work, and it would an utterly classless move that wouldn't earn them any praise within the game.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fab Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I said it when we were first linked. Think about how good he'd have to be over the next few years for Barcelona to actually sign him back. He would have to become one of the best attacking players in world football. If he plays to that level in a villa shirt I won't be hurt about Barcelona buying him back. Not necessarily. It might just be the case that Barcelona can buy him back for 8 million and then immediately sell him for, say, 12 million. Barcelona buying him back doesn't imply Barcelona planning on playing him. That said, it would still mean that his value increased which in turn would mean that he had a positive impact for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 11, 2015 Moderator Share Posted August 11, 2015 I said it when we were first linked. Think about how good he'd have to be over the next few years for Barcelona to actually sign him back. He would have to become one of the best attacking players in world football. If he plays to that level in a villa shirt I won't be hurt about Barcelona buying him back. Not necessarily. It might just be the case that Barcelona can buy him back for 8 million and then immediately sell him for, say, 12 million. Barcelona buying him back doesn't imply Barcelona planning on playing him. That said, it would still mean that his value increased which in turn would mean that he had a positive impact for us. Couldn't happen in the same season as far as I'm aware, I believe there is a rule preventing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted August 11, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted August 11, 2015 I said it when we were first linked. Think about how good he'd have to be over the next few years for Barcelona to actually sign him back. He would have to become one of the best attacking players in world football. If he plays to that level in a villa shirt I won't be hurt about Barcelona buying him back. Not necessarily. It might just be the case that Barcelona can buy him back for 8 million and then immediately sell him for, say, 12 million. Barcelona buying him back doesn't imply Barcelona planning on playing him. That said, it would still mean that his value increased which in turn would mean that he had a positive impact for us. The player has a say in this though surely? If he knows that BArca are just going to sell him on to the highest bidder he might just tell them to stick it up their bollocks. Benteke *could* have stayed if he wanted even though the release clause fee was met. Surely a buy back is just a way of guarenteeing you get to talk turkey with the player like a release clause. Regardless, if we get this lad I may actually need new pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Reports in Spain are there is no buy back clause. This got ignored amongst the teeth gnashing and wailing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 (edited) Besides a player can't play for 3 clubs in one season so they would have to own him for at least a year before shifting him on again, and probably pay him up to £5m in a years wage just to make a quick profit.. not likely. If this clause is put in place he will only go back if they want him for themselves. So I think we will be safe unless he turns into a world class player. Which is fine by me as we would have a world class player for a while. Win/Win *I see Trent just beat me to my point. Edited August 11, 2015 by Junxs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Let's sign him first..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donniewyer Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I bet he doesn't even sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul33 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 He's here ..... just seen him in a chippy on Alum Rock ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz316 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Cannot see this one happening at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I don't mind clauses and such as long as we know before hand. It's when a player has a good season and we suddenly get told they have a £2.50 release clause that pisses me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Traore out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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