Mantis Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 I'm of the opinion that while he's decent, he's fast becoming one of the most overrated players in football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Mantis said: I'm of the opinion that while he's decent, he's fast becoming one of the most overrated players in football. He is a highlights player and thats what football fans want now. They dont watch a full game and see him play just the Match of the Day clips. Truth is when he has the ball he is exciting but as said previously he isnt even a regular for Wolves. He has started 2 of the last 7 Premier League games Nuno uses him as an impact sub against tiring defences 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy81 Posted June 28, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: He wouldn't get in the Liverpool team. In fact I don't think he'd get into any of the Champions League chasing sides. Wolves is probably about right for him. He only starts about two thirds of their games. He's already in one of those. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Stevo985 said: He wouldn't get in the Liverpool team. In fact I don't think he'd get into any of the Champions League chasing sides. Wolves is probably about right for him. He only starts about two thirds of their games. I rhink thats down to fitness not ability. I think he would get into chelsea liverpool Uniteds first team. Only team i think he would have trouble getting into his citys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I rhink thats down to fitness not ability. I think he would get into chelsea liverpool Uniteds first team. Only team i think he would have trouble getting into his citys He cant get into Wolves starting 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Zatman said: He cant get into Wolves starting 11 Its fitness thats only reason 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 52 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I rhink thats down to fitness not ability. I think he would get into chelsea liverpool Uniteds first team. Only team i think he would have trouble getting into his citys Again if you think he gets in to Liverpools first team then imo you don't understand how Liverpool play Current Chelsea team yep but next season with werner I don't think they need him Utd I agree but they will go for Grealish and sancho before they went for him due to marketability 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Can't believe we signed him for 20m 5 years ago when that was a lot and he only played a handful of games for us. That was such a frustrating year. We were so shit, like how hard was it to play Adama, Grealish and Gil together? What did we have to lose, 17 points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Can't believe we signed him for 20m 5 years ago when that was a lot and he only played a handful of games for us. That was such a frustrating year. We were so shit, like how hard was it to play Adama, Grealish and Gil together? What did we have to lose, 17 points? We signed him for something £7m, not £20m, although admittedly £7m in 2015 is basically like £20m in 2020 anyway. Edited June 28, 2020 by Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mantis said: We signed him for something £7m, not £20m, although admittedly £7m in 2015 is basically like £20m in 2020 anyway. I don't know why I always remember it as 18-20m. I feel like I've said this on here before and was corrected just like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 28, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Andy81 said: He's already in one of those. *other champions league chasing sides. And he only gets into Wolves' side two thirds of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 28, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: I rhink thats down to fitness not ability. I think he would get into chelsea liverpool Uniteds first team. Only team i think he would have trouble getting into his citys He wouldn't get into any of those sides' starting XIs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: He wouldn't get into any of those sides' starting XIs I disagree. He is better than all of uniteds wingers. Chelsea dont ahve a great poole of wingers either. Liverpool maybe not but he can definitely push for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: I disagree. He is better than all of uniteds wingers. Chelsea dont ahve a great poole of wingers either. Liverpool maybe not but he can definitely push for it Chelsea have Pulisic, Hudson Odoi, Willian, Pedro and soon Ziyech and Werner who can play wide 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Keyblade said: I don't know why I always remember it as 18-20m. I feel like I've said this on here before and was corrected just like this Wolves paid £18m for him which I think we got a quarter of. He cost us £9m and then we more or less swapped him for Adomah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 10 hours ago, Keyblade said: Can't believe we signed him for 20m 5 years ago when that was a lot and he only played a handful of games for us. That was such a frustrating year. We were so shit, like how hard was it to play Adama, Grealish and Gil together? What did we have to lose, 17 points? Because we don't have the courage to try something new. For example: we're judging Davis for a game or two without scoring (because it's his chance to shine) yet Wesley keep having chance after another. Adama doesn't pass? no problem, he'll learn. He have have attributes that other players don't have. Even Grealish, he's shown what he have, yet Lambert didn't play him even when we went 2-3 months without scoring. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 I still don't rate him. Genuinly don't get what everyone else are seeing. He's better than what he was for us, but that's about it. Meh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 17 hours ago, Keyblade said: Can't believe we signed him for 20m 5 years ago when that was a lot and he only played a handful of games for us. That was such a frustrating year. We were so shit, like how hard was it to play Adama, Grealish and Gil together? What did we have to lose, 17 points? It was going to happen at the start. Remember Adama coming on for his debut at Palace, running through half their team and crossing for an own goal to be scored. Then him and Jack played together v Notts County and were running riot first half. Adama got injured and we didn't see him again under Garde turned up. Grealish and Gil were fantastic in that infamous Leicester game but after that we went to more conservative line ups and stayed with them even when we had no hope of staying up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 21 hours ago, Wainy316 said: Wolves paid £18m for him which I think we got a quarter of. He cost us £9m and then we more or less swapped him for Adomah. We didnt get anything because Xia sold them for magic beans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 2, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 2, 2020 On 28/06/2020 at 22:24, Demitri_C said: I disagree. He is better than all of uniteds wingers. Chelsea dont ahve a great poole of wingers either. Liverpool maybe not but he can definitely push for it On 28/06/2020 at 23:37, Zatman said: Chelsea have Pulisic, Hudson Odoi, Willian, Pedro and soon Ziyech and Werner who can play wide Zat beat me to it. Chelsea are doing some great business. They don't need him and he wouldn't get in the team if they signed him anyway. As exciting as he is, he's just not good enough for that top level, imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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