Phumfeinz Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I'd be more concerned if the guy didn't have the ambition to go back to Barcelona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Traore probably just said the stuff about going back to Barcelona out of kindness and respect to his old club. I'm sure if Grealish were to join Barca in a few years he'd might say something similar about returning to Villa one day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 27, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted August 27, 2015 Traore probably just said the stuff about going back to Barcelona out of kindness and respect to his old club. I'm sure if Grealish were to join Barca in a few years he'd might say something similar about returning to Villa one day. I doubt it. He was born there, grew up there. He's been with Barcelona since he was a child. They're one of the biggest clubs in the world in one of the best cities in the world. Of course he wants to go back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 This is what Lambert wanted to do but he didn't have the budget. Buy them young and highly rated, develop them and then sell them on. The hope is these players move us up the table and eventually make is challengers in our own right. In my opinion, it's the only way to go. The only way we will ever be anything other than boring mid table bores. Good luck to you Adama and I admire your ambition. Lambert couldn't Develop a "Polaroid" picture. Delph, Benteke, Westwood Three examples of players who improved and whose value increased during his tenure. I'm not saying he's the messiah but it's clear that that there 's a discrepancy between what he wanted to do and what he was able or capable of doing. It's a strong blueprint, which the club have somewhat unsuccessfully been trying half heartedly for a few years. Adama is a pedigree above what we've signed before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 27, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted August 27, 2015 Even if Lambert did fail to develop some players, I think it's clear the approach was similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Yeah Lamberts was utter trash,sherwoods isnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggy_333 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Yeah Lamberts was utter trash,sherwoods isnt Yeah that Benteke fella was terrible... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 The fact that Adama and Gueye both openly admit that they're hoping to move on to bigger things would suggest that Sherwood has discussed that with them IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 27, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted August 27, 2015 The fact that Adama and Gueye both openly admit that they're hoping to move on to bigger things would suggest that Sherwood has discussed that with them IMHO. Exactly. That was my point above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 No way has Sherwood discussed it with them. He wouldn't need to, it's not as if they wouldn't know it already. Whoever they sign for, if they do well they're going to earn a move to a club better placed to challenge for trophies and pay more money. I think this whole idea that we're selling ourselves to players as a stepping stone is just myth that people seem to be taking as gospel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Traore probably just said the stuff about going back to Barcelona out of kindness and respect to his old club. I'm sure if Grealish were to join Barca in a few years he'd might say something similar about returning to Villa one day. I doubt it. He was born there, grew up there. He's been with Barcelona since he was a child. They're one of the biggest clubs in the world in one of the best cities in the world. Of course he wants to go back. Don't talk bollocks, Everyone has the dream of playing football in Birmingham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 According to him he turned down Bayern Munich for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted August 27, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted August 27, 2015 I think as there's a buy back clause for Adama, it's fairly likely Sherwood will have had a conversation with him to that affect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 The barca stuff bloke on Twitter (who's pretty good tbf, shame there isn't a villa one) said yesterday it was the fee + the wages + 2m So basically we'd be 2m up on him if they activated it, not sure if it was £ or € Still maintain that he's going to have to be very good for us to suffer from this clause and it would only be financially anyway, if he's that good that Man city want him in 2 years time then IMO our ability to keep him would be the same, if barca did the dirty on us with the clause it would just mean that the cash ends up in their pocket rather than ours, still not overly fussed by that, I'd rather pocket the 2 years of a player dragging us up the table than the cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted August 27, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted August 27, 2015 I'm enjoying watching him play, so all the contract stuff is not going to worry me too much. Having said that I was wondering does the deal mean we can't sell him to anyone else for three years? Apologies if asked and answered before. In the mean time I just hope he's on course to destroy sunderland, I hope no news is good news regarding his knock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 27, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted August 27, 2015 No way has Sherwood discussed it with them. He wouldn't need to, it's not as if they wouldn't know it already. Whoever they sign for, if they do well they're going to earn a move to a club better placed to challenge for trophies and pay more money. I think this whole idea that we're selling ourselves to players as a stepping stone is just myth that people seem to be taking as gospel. Nobody is taking it as gospel. Some have just suggested that MAYBE we're using it as leverage to attract some better players. As two of our players have openly discussed the desire to move to bigger clubs in the future I don't think it's so crazy to think it might have been something that was discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villatillidie1980 Posted August 27, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted August 27, 2015 Sorry if I have missed it, but any update on his injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 People lamenting the broken state of football in this regard have a point, but only up to a point. It was always a matter of degree - if you had someone good enough someone would come in for them. It was just that with smaller squads, less sub's, and less international travel there were more decent players shared between more teams. But Liverpool, Leeds etc didn't win more because they were inherently and intrinsically " better" than anyone else, but because they had money, good Managers, and good talent spotters. It is still possible to have the second and third, and in the first, in the Internationalist sense we are sort of top 20 out of 200 odd clubs whereas for your a while ( only briefly mind) we were in a more intra- national sense top 6 out of say 20. So not really as different as all that, and with all the right stuff in place we can hope to be up around as good as we've ever ( since the war) been, namely top 6 ish, decent cup bet, some chances of Euro glory, and a once every fifteen to twenty year exceptional season. Which I would say is still an awful lot more than about 85 other League Clubs now, just like it was back in the seventies and eighties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Raphael Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Jack's shooting looks really poor. Really needs to improve on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 According to him he turned down Bayern Munich for us But that makes total sense. He's moved for first team football. If he wanted to play for the reserves at a club who won the treble recently then he'd have just stayed at Barcelona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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