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Nah there was more to it than that, that was a very simplified version, basically she deserved it.

He should have volleyed her in the jaw
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I had to warn one of our guys after he forwarded on a porn picture to Steph (female) instead of Stephen (intended recipient ) and made him ring Steph to apologise and that was the end of the matter

Other than that my view is we are all adults ...and just use your common sense I.e You can send me dirty jokes but don't send them to Pam in accounts under pain of death .

Facebook they can post what they like far as I'm concerned , they just work for us , we don't own them and control their life

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So, potentially took an interesting twist today.

Had a text message from a work colleague who had overheard 2 members of staff talking about my situation in the staff room - i will refer to them as A and B. Turns out A passed on a concern about my most recent post to B (who is a team leader/supervisor) and said they had spoken to me before and i hadn't listened (a lie). B then went away and printed off the post in question as well as all of my older posts regarding work and presented them to the store manager.

Also, it appears that the other team leader that we have has told a different member of staff why Im not currently in work.

Now, my questions here are; 1) clearly A and B should not be discussing my situation whilst at work and certainly not in the staff room when they can (and were) potentially be overheard... 2) How does the other team leader know? Surely the only people who should know my situation are myself, the 2 management who did my "investigation interview" and the person(s) who reported me. Regardless of how she found out, the other team leader should not be telling 'normal' staff... 3) person B was on my friend list (i say 'was' as i deleted my account obviously) and was clearly not offended by any previous posts as he'd have reported them at the time, and yet hes decided to report them all at once. I also had the other team leader and the assistant manager (who is currently on maternity leave) on there as I trusted all 3 of them completely - so 3 of the 5 management team (the other 2 aren't on facebook) had seen older posts and not deemed them serious enough to report.

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I had to warn one of our guys after he forwarded on a porn picture to Steph (female) instead of Stephen (intended recipient ) and made him ring Steph to apologise and that was the end of the matter

Other than that my view is we are all adults ...and just use your common sense I.e You can send me dirty jokes but don't send them to Pam in accounts under pain of death .

Facebook they can post what they like far as I'm concerned , they just work for us , we don't own them and control their life

 

One of my neighbours was on his placement from college at Citibank (I think?) with a few other people from his course. He was out one night and had sex with one of the other girls on placement in the office. He told another fella in the office who sent him an email of two monkeys having sex with his head and the girl's head photoshopped onto the monkeys, or at least that's what he thought he accidentally sent it to the girl, turns out they'd been sending pretty "lad" type emails back and forth and both got their placement cut short and were thrown out of college. 

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Team leader should not in any way be passing info on to another member of staff. Get the other member of staff who overheard to write a witness statement.

 

Although (tired, sorry...) I think you said you had a text... BOOM. Do no delete that. Handy. Could be seen that you are being victimised and if the person is indeed talking to other people, it is a good thing to keep (the text).

 

I've been away for a little, so I missed it. Did you take a witness in? If it was indeed an informal chat, how can they go from that to where you are now? Did they warn you in the meeting that it was going to proceed in that manner and were notes taken, did you have a witness who also took notes?

 

If it was informal, it makes no sense that the next step is to put you on full pay but an investigation. 

 

I'm so tired but have experience in this. I will try to help as much as possible.

 

Sorry for the ramble.

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Shortly after finishing a Law a-level, I started working at a large home improvement company. I'd been there a while when a poorly stacked set of tiles fell onto my left foot, causing a lot of trauma. Upon asking if I could go to the hospital, which was just up the road, I was told to wait for cover - and was then asked to continue working. I didn't I walked hopped out.

 

To cut a long story short, my foot was in a shit way and has been ever since. But they made my life hell, found comments I made about an ex (something along the lines of ruining my life and is out to cause me pain, I cannot remember) and tried to make out it was about them - amongst other things. I was still an employee, when they asked me in for an informal meeting (!!!!) of which they told me I didn't need a witness, but being a bit more savvy than they thought, I took a witness (my law tutor) and when I got there I found they had a member of HR, the area manage, manager of the store and another senior member of staff. They were waiting to rip me to shreds - and strangely, when I introduced my witness, they adjourned the meeting!

 

Anyway I went through hell, being accused of all sorts - such as 'pulling the tiles down onto my own foot and then kicking a stand to make it bruise'.

 

I spent hours at my law tutors house for weeks, as we sat and read through books, putting together a case. Then they wanted another meeting and told me I can have a witness - but it has to be a staff member. Fine.

 

Anyway I had an answer for everything they threw at me and you could tell they were getting really pissed off. Everything I did was noted by myself and my friend (a nice colleague - all shop floor staff backed me!), but they were annoyed by me - so they finished the meeting and said I would hear something in 2 weeks, before they frog marched me out of the store - saying "We need to be sure you don't shoplift" - and I knew they did this in front of other members of staff to try and stop them backing me.

 

Basically, companies will try ANYTHING they can to beat you down. Don't let them.

 

Oh and yes, two years later I came away with £15k. Not that the money matters as my foot is still shit!!!

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Team leader should not in any way be passing info on to another member of staff. Get the other member of staff who overheard to write a witness statement.

Although (tired, sorry...) I think you said you had a text... BOOM. Do no delete that. Handy. Could be seen that you are being victimised and if the person is indeed talking to other people, it is a good thing to keep (the text).

I've been away for a little, so I missed it. Did you take a witness in? If it was indeed an informal chat, how can they go from that to where you are now? Did they warn you in the meeting that it was going to proceed in that manner and were notes taken, did you have a witness who also took notes?

If it was informal, it makes no sense that the next step is to put you on full pay but an investigation.

I'm so tired but have experience in this. I will try to help as much as possible.

Sorry for the ramble.

Obviously i have kept the text message.

I didnt take a witness in, as i read "informal meeting" as 'you're getting a bollocking when you come in' - notes were taken by the 3rd party present in the meeting, and as yet those notes nor copies of the posts I was confronted with have been made available to me. I haven't had any official confirmation that Im currently suspended either - just my manager telling me that that is the case.

I asked the staff member who texted me to talk to the store manager about what she had overheard and to ask her to call me

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I had a stint as a security guard many many years ago working nights in a locked compound, occasionally a truck driver would come in and I would sign them in, and that would be that. On the whole, just me for 12 hours, watching telly and chilling like the proverbial.

One night a driver came in and as I was a lazy bugger I didn’t sign him in. A month later I am called into the office and it seems I (actually it was he) had made an abusive phone call to a random woman in Birmingham (I worked and lived in Telford at the time). The time it happened there was only me on site according to the records and an investigation was going to be carried out. Its stuck with me for years this as I left before I could clear my name, I was horrified that anyone could think that of me. A few years later I progressed to an ok position at a huge IT firm and the security company took over our security and every day I used to see my old manager, I have to say I dreaded him mentioning the investigation. 8 years ago as I was leaving I spoke to him about it and asked if he recalled it, he did and and he said the calls continued to the woman after I had left and they finally found it was the driver.

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Team leader should not in any way be passing info on to another member of staff. Get the other member of staff who overheard to write a witness statement.

Although (tired, sorry...) I think you said you had a text... BOOM. Do no delete that. Handy. Could be seen that you are being victimised and if the person is indeed talking to other people, it is a good thing to keep (the text).

I've been away for a little, so I missed it. Did you take a witness in? If it was indeed an informal chat, how can they go from that to where you are now? Did they warn you in the meeting that it was going to proceed in that manner and were notes taken, did you have a witness who also took notes?

If it was informal, it makes no sense that the next step is to put you on full pay but an investigation.

I'm so tired but have experience in this. I will try to help as much as possible.

Sorry for the ramble.

Obviously i have kept the text message.

I didnt take a witness in, as i read "informal meeting" as 'you're getting a bollocking when you come in' - notes were taken by the 3rd party present in the meeting, and as yet those notes nor copies of the posts I was confronted with have been made available to me. I haven't had any official confirmation that Im currently suspended either - just my manager telling me that that is the case.

I asked the staff member who texted me to talk to the store manager about what she had overheard and to ask her to call me

Simply put, you should have been given those notes (a copy) as soon as possible. Did they ask you to sign them? If not those notes are next to useless. I'm not happy they have turned an informal meeting into this, it's blatantly unfair and you've not been given a chance to be represented or put together a proper plea before the 'informal' meeting.

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Guys, sorry about the foot thing. Was early and I wasn't thinking. Spoilers it! Been travelling otherwise I'd have done it earlier. Sorry!

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Find out where your boss lives, and when you can, go into his garden.  Find his favourite plant/tree, unearth it and take it home with you.  Send him anonymous cuttings of the plant/tree with a note saying "Let Stewie off, or the plant gets it! P.S. this is not Stewie, so don't say it is or anything, ok buster?"

 

If you are able to go back to your job, you can just take it into work and say that a very sinister looking person gave you the said plant to give to your boss.

 

If you lose your job, make a video of you beheading his most prised possession and send it to him.

 

Either way, you win.

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