sne Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) Was not able (or given the opportunity thanks to the injury) to show his quality for us last season. But in his last season for Nice he had the highest average rating in Ligue 1 of all players, ahead of Zlatan Ibrahimovic!!! He lead the league in interceptions, was 5th in tackles, just outside top 10 in dribbles... Ligue 1 Player Statistics Summary Defensive Offensive Passing Detailed View: Overall Home Away Filter: Minimum apps All players R Player Apps Mins Goals Assists Yel Red SpG PS% AerialsWon MotM Rating 1 Jordan AmaviNice, 22, D(L) 36 3233 4 - 11 - 0.5 74.6 3.1 8 7.74 2 Zlatan IbrahimovicParis Saint Germain, 34, AM(CR),FW 23(1) 2003 19 6 3 - 3.6 77.9 2.2 6 7.73 3 Alexandre LacazetteLyon, 25, M(CLR),FW 33 2849 27 6 6 - 2.9 78.8 1.1 8 7.69 4 Loic PerrinSaint-Etienne, 30, D(CR),M(CR) 27(1) 2438 1 - 1 - 0.5 84.3 4.3 5 7.59 5 Nicolas N'KoulouMarseille, 26, D(C),M(CR) 23(1) 2111 2 - 5 - 0.5 90.8 3.4 1 7.59 6 Nabil FekirLyon, 22, AM(C),FW 34 2776 13 9 7 - 2.6 83.8 0.6 7 7.57 7 HiltonMontpellier, 38, D(CL),DMC 37 3330 3 - 3 1 0.7 64 3.4 6 7.57 8 Dimitri PayetMarseille, 29, D(C),M(CLR),FW 35(1) 3062 7 16 3 - 2 79.1 0.1 7 7.56 9 Marco VerrattiParis Saint Germain, 23, DMC 28(4) 2460 2 8 11 - 0.4 91.4 0.3 5 7.55 10 Layvin KurzawaMonaco, 23, D(L) 25(2) 2205 - 4 1 - 1.2 77.5 1.9 6 7.54 © WhoScored Page 1/29 | Showing 1 - 10 of 287 first | prev | next | last Edited May 28, 2016 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: To be honest, should he say, I'd be keen to see him get a run in midfield. He's quick with good technique and a very good delivery. I'm not going to say he's anywhere near as good as Gareth Bale, but we could have a similar situation on our hands in the sense that we have a player who started at left back, but could excel more further up the pitch. He started off his career as a winger and was converted to full back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 It sounds to me as if he's talking about staying in England, not specifically at Villa. But we'll see. It wouldn't do him any harm to have a season in the Championship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Excuse the pun but he needs to crawl before he can walk. His injury was so horrific that it's possible he won't be the same player ever again. It's possible that his speed and agility could be negatively affected, plus his general robustness in that leg. However assuming he's physically back to 100%, there's still the question of whether he's mentally going to be the same player. Will he still be keen to jump into tackles and put his foot in, will he be as aggressive? Point being he would probably benefit from 'rebuilding' in familiar surroundings, so a season in the Championship will do him good. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted May 28, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Excuse the pun but he needs to crawl before he can walk. His injury was so horrific that it's possible he won't be the same player ever again. It's possible that his speed and agility could be negatively affected, plus his general robustness in that leg. However assuming he's physically back to 100%, there's still the question of whether he's mentally going to be the same player. Will he still be keen to jump into tackles and put his foot in, will he be as aggressive? Point being he would probably benefit from 'rebuilding' in familiar surroundings, so a season in the Championship will do him good. Totally, and I think that's why we'll manage to keep him this summer. It would be a gamble for any club which would pay enough for us to consider him leaving, but hopefully he'll be back to his best for us in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 He could be a very good player for us, provided he gets back to full fitness with no ill effects from his injury. I think if he plays the full season as our first choice left back and in a new, positive and organised team he will flourish. Add to the fact he's in a lower division and we should see him improve loads. I certainly wouldn't want to see him go now. Time will tell of course but I think he could be a decent, good, great, super, excellent, fabulous, marvellous, fantastic, awesome, successful player for Villa* *please delete superlative as appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 29, 2016 Moderator Share Posted May 29, 2016 I'll be amazed and hugely excited if he is fit and hangs around here next season. He was so far above us last season and that was in the Premier League. The thoughts of him playing in the Championship. Ugh, I feel bad for him. He deserves so so much better than what he got with this move. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 He looked good going forward, but his defensive play certainly wasn't out of keeping with the rest of the team, unfortunately. No doubting he could become a very good player, but he wasn't there yet, even before his injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 30 minutes ago, BOF said: He was so far above us last season and that was in the Premier League. He just wasn't though...... He was one of the better players no doubt but he wasn't dropped for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 On 28/05/2016 at 10:20, Skruff said: His hair is fabolous. Yes. It is actually world class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I like him, and unlike some of the others, he always says the right thing. Whether he actually means it though, or is just that bit more clever, that is the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted May 29, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 29, 2016 I'm pretty sure his injury will be what keeps him here another season, he's not yet that big a player that other clubs will take a chance on him, they'll want to see him play a bit first. Well here's hoping anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 43 minutes ago, Woodytom said: He just wasn't though...... He was one of the better players no doubt but he wasn't dropped for no reason. Agreed. Looked good going forward at times but looked very ropey when defending. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I'll be amazed and hugely excited if he is fit and hangs around here next season. He was so far above us last season and that was in the Premier League. The thoughts of him playing in the Championship. Ugh, I feel bad for him. He deserves so so much better than what he got with this move. Disagree in many ways BOF. PL players are expected to rounded and polished, as well as having the necessary quality. Amavi is neither rounded or polished and wasn't when he came in. He was a gamble worth taking for us, but not near the finished article. His development has been stunted by injury and our poor form. He'd have suitors but whether they would satisfy our asking price and the club would satisfy his ambition is debatable. In short, I think he'd struggle to get a move that was better than sacrificing a season in the Championship, and a soft return from a bad injury. Like has been mentioned earlier, he's still got to prove that he's the same player as he was before, physically. I suspect in January, we may be batting them away, but for now I think he could do a lot worse than us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 2 hours ago, Woodytom said: He just wasn't though...... He was one of the better players no doubt but he wasn't dropped for no reason. He could cross though and in the modern game that's quite an important strength for a full back. If he can hit inch perfect crosses for Gestede to rifle in he can do more with a better forward if we come up with one this summer. Hope he stays, will be a very good player down there as long as the ACL hasn't knackered. He was also very quick so will have to see if that is an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 11 minutes ago, VillaChris said: He could cross though and in the modern game that's quite an important strength for a full back. If he can hit inch perfect crosses for Gestede to rifle in he can do more with a better forward if we come up with one this summer. Hope he stays, will be a very good player down there as long as the ACL hasn't knackered. He was also very quick so will have to see if that is an issue. Oh I agree, bit he is massively overated by some posters on here imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 True but you've got to remember the atrocities we've had at LB pre Amavi and post with Richardson and Bacuna there.... I'm not saying he dosen't have faults but if he'd stayed fit I think he'd be near impossible to hold onto now. Hopefully the injury will walk in our favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 People are being harsh on his defending. Yes he made 1 or 2 glaring errors but generally he was decent. I think he also had the highest interceptions in the league at one stage and pretty highly ranked with tackles too. Stats he produced in France too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted May 29, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2016 2 hours ago, Woodytom said: Oh I agree, bit he is massively overated by some posters on here imo Friday (on Amavi): 'To call him fabulous at this stage, is indeed up there with your usual over hyping of players.' Sunday (on Grealish): 'I think he's dogshit tbh.' On the one hand, ludicrous rhetorical inflation, on the other, calling somebody out for the exact same thing 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 7 hours ago, BOF said: I'll be amazed and hugely excited if he is fit and hangs around here next season. He was so far above us last season and that was in the Premier League. The thoughts of him playing in the Championship. Ugh, I feel bad for him. He deserves so so much better than what he got with this move. I think his fitness will keep him here for at least 6 months. very good player though and as said before he was best thing we had for Gestede who thrived on his deliveries (think he had 3 assists for him before his injury) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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