Zatman Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 Grant Leadbitter is an awful midfielder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 22 hours ago, Zatman said: Grant Leadbitter is an awful midfielder He was excellent in the championship so one of those who just can't make the step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Remember when everyone was clambering for Januzai to play for their nation? Seems like a long time ago does that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Man U had a better player in Zaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Must admit I was engulfed by the hype. I would've loved us to take him on loan when he was linked under Lambert but he's done very little now at either Dortmund or Sunderland so his career will fizzle out as would imagine Man. United will let him go this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 It's just modern football culture. A few good games and a player is "world class". It's why so many players seem to flop, because they're built up to such a ridiculous standard by fans, that the only way is down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said: It's just modern football culture. A few good games and a player is "world class". It's why so many players seem to flop, because they're built up to such a ridiculous standard by fans, that the only way is down. I agree with this and add in the expectancy of fans nowadays is by far more than ever. The rise of social media has been a conduit for this, along with the ever increasing financial gulf between footballers and everyday man. You just have to listen to talk sport, to hear a player being bigged up one week and labelled world class only to be destroyed the following week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 21 minutes ago, theboyangel said: I agree with this and add in the expectancy of fans nowadays is by far more than ever. The rise of social media has been a conduit for this, along with the ever increasing financial gulf between footballers and everyday man. You just have to listen to talk sport, to hear a player being bigged up one week and labelled world class only to be destroyed the following week. It's why I tend to avoid football talk with most people. It's all a point scoring thing these days. I try to not get overexcited by a player and wait until he's done something for a decent while. So when I rate someone, I get responses of "I said he was going to be great 18 months ago!". You mean after his debut? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 SWP syndrome too English football seems to have thing about getting over excited about tricky paced wingers who very quickly get found out, januzaj is just one of several 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 3 hours ago, villa4europe said: SWP syndrome too English football seems to have thing about getting over excited about tricky paced wingers who very quickly get found out, januzaj is just one of several Like Sterling, who will be at a mid table premier league team within 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 On 4/27/2017 at 10:59, rodders0223 said: Remember when everyone was clambering for Januzai to play for their nation? Seems like a long time ago does that. I seem to recall it was front page tabloid news! I think the fact he played for Man Utd exacerbated the furore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 29, 2017 Author Share Posted April 29, 2017 I dont think was any chance he was ever eligible for England but agree he has not moved on. He looked better as United were awful under Moyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 On 28/04/2017 at 21:39, theboyangel said: I agree with this and add in the expectancy of fans nowadays is by far more than ever. The rise of social media has been a conduit for this, along with the ever increasing financial gulf between footballers and everyday man. You just have to listen to talk sport, to hear a player being bigged up one week and labelled world class only to be destroyed the following week. It's also the media who hype up players really early on. When Martial scored against Liverpool, they were all "the next Thierry Henry!". After one game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 On 4/17/2017 at 21:51, Zatman said: Grant Leadbitter is an awful midfielder Good Championship player when he helped Boro get promoted. That was his level though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Sorry but I just don't get Marcus Rashford, not very good at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I mean, he's 19 years old. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 23 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Sorry but I just don't get Marcus Rashford, not very good at all. I didn't like his dive yesterday (not as bad as mane for citeh) but I like the energy and directness he can bring to the game. he's young and still raw but I can see him developing into a good player. However he is far from the finished article and nowhere near the hype surrounding him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 2, 2017 Author Share Posted May 2, 2017 He isnt rubbish in general but Karim Benzema has never been Real Madrid quality centre forward 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Isn't he Florentino Perez's favourite player or something? Must admit I just look up his Madrid stats and really surprised he's been there 8 years now, signed same summer as Ronaldo. I think it's the link up play that keeps him there. I know he's my favourite hobby horse atm but sell Benzema, replace him with Lukaku and he'd probably score more goals than Benzema but Ronaldo would start whinging at yet another pass that is overhit and goes out of play. Could say the same for Higuaín I guess, better finisher but just not as good as getting involved in the creation of attacks and keeping Ronaldo happy. I do think he underwhelmed for France before his expulsion. World Cup 2014 is only tournament where he really did anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 His goal-scoring record isn't bad to be fair. Better goal per game ratio for Real than Bale and is a lot more than his goals but I have never been enamoured by him. You wouldn't rate him up there with suarez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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