Fight Like Lions Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 1. Guzan - SELL (if it equates to an upgrade, otherwise keep and play him) 2. Baker - KEEP (squad) 4. Vlaar - KEEP (new 2 year deal, can't see us buying a better replacement) 5. Okore - KEEP (starter) 6. Clark - KEEP (starter) 7. Bacuna - KEEP (squad - midfielder) 8. Cleverley (LOAN) - KEEP if possible 9. Sinclair - KEEP (starter if we play 4-4-2) 10. Weimann - SELL 11. Agbonlahor - SELL (if anyone is stupid enough to bid for him, otherwise impact sub only). 12. Cole - RELEASE 13. Steer - KEEP (squad) 14. Senderos - RELEASE 15. Westwood - KEEP (starter) 16. Delph - KEEP (starter) 18. Richardson - KEEP (squad) 20. Benteke - KEEP (if possible!) 21. Hutton - SELL 22. Gardner - KEEP (Squad) 23. Cissokho - SELL 24. Sanchez - KEEP (squad) 25. Gil - KEEP (squad) 27. Kozak - KEEP (squad) 28. N'Zogbia - KEEP (squad, do not offer new contract) 29. Hepburn-Murphy - LOAN 31. Given - KEEP (until retirement, then coaching staff) 34. Lowton - SELL 39. Calder - LOAN 40. Grealish - KEEP (starter) My shopping list- GK (must be an upgrade to Guzan or don't bother), experienced LB, experienced RB, quality striker and another midfielder if we don't get Cleverley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Awful squad. Very little to argue against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Just glad I'm not faced with the task.....just hope we get a fresh approach....embracing strong character as a pre requisite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 It's a squad that has more ability and will on the ball.....than off the ball. I think off the ball they are very poor outfit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I think off the ball they are very poor outfit. Last few matches I've seen we've been very poor at closing down. A few of the guys get within a metre or two of attacking ball carriers and then seem to stand off the ball rather than attempt a tackle. Especially evident at Wembley from the offset. Nobody looked to have any desire to have a go. Granted it could have been a tactical decision, but I would expect a bit more passion and determination from the lads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I think off the ball they are very poor outfit. Last few matches I've seen we've been very poor at closing down. A few of the guys get within a metre or two of attacking ball carriers and then seem to stand off the ball rather than attempt a tackle. Especially evident at Wembley from the offset. Nobody looked to have any desire to have a go. Granted it could have been a tactical decision, but I would expect a bit more passion and determination from the lads I think it's our biggest problem...we don't press....we need to get players in who find it natural to do so. I think it is also a major contributory factor to us having big peaks and troughs in performance and results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny_Villaman84 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) it is will Very smallest size, well good for us as we dont play Euro League or Cup. Let hope not injury load next season -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keep:- GOALKEEPER - Guzan, Steers DEFENDER - Hutton, Okore, Clark, Baker, Cissoko, (might Vlaar if we cant find replacement him) MIDFIELD - Delph, Westwood, Sanchez, Gardner, Cleverly, CREATIVE / WINGER - Gill, Grealish, Sinchair, Baunca ( i think he better player as winger) STRIKER - Benteke, Kozak Buy New GK, RB and CB, LB, (CM if Cleverly left), LW, Striker - 2x Link up Striker and Finisher Type (very busy summer transfer unfortunate these need to get top 10) rest of these need to go (senior) include Gabby as His wage too high and not effective regular as we need him so we need let him go for better player sadly as he is villa fan... or loan (for young players and give chance to fight first team place like Robinson and Murphy, Calder, Kinsella etc etc) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (vs Regular Team) (vs weak Team) ------------------------Guzan----------------------- --------------------------Guzan------------------- New RB------Okore------Clark------New LB New RB--------Okore------Clark------New LB -------Cleverly---Westwood---Delph------ -----------Cleverly-----Westwood---Delph------ ---------------Gill----------Grealish----------- ----------New ST-------Benteke------Sinchair ----------------------Benteke------------------- (gabby if not buy ST) (vs Strong Team) (Vs Opponent Weak against Winger) -----------------------Guzan--------------------- ------------------------Guzan---------------------- -----------Okore-----Clark-----Baker--------- Hutton------Okore----------Clark------Cissoko New RB--------------------------------------New LB Sinchair----Cleverly--------Delph----New LW -----------------------Sanchez--------------------- ----------------New ST---------Benteke------------- ----------Cleverly----Westwood----Delph-------- (proper winger to got free to attack and full back sit to Stop - counter attack) -------------------------Benteke-------------------- (Gabby in ST if not buy ST) (okore or Clark to DM if our ball to kept ball around) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GK - Steers or Serguit as Back up or Go scout buy new GK FB - Robertson and Tripper for Full Back will Very good sign. (i dont think both will join as big club or other club will get him as money more bid that us) CB - Huge fans of Shawcross... Chester quiet not bad Centre Half, Best Option I think we should go.. Micah Richards Quick Centre half to Cover Okore also can play Full Back) Good Shout for me and Better Balance if we push up. So Okore or Richards will able stop fast striker. whiles we can control opponent to creative more chance without worry slow defender back line) CM - need scout or Gardner to Step up if Cleverly dont sign LW- Townsend ? - Honest i don't kept on him but good sign if he under sherwood we need go scout Left Foot who Like Play Left Winger work hard and got win mental, passion, track back. ( covert Bennett as winger ? if cheapest option ) AM - Schuab (if Gill left) Link up Striker - Ings (i think he is great choice to partner Benteke or first choice (if Benteke left), also he good at link up and work hard striker), and go scout if he not join us.... "Saunder Style" to with Benteke Pace Striker - need fast with good dribble, and Super finisher, Work Hard, team work. need scout any suggest? "Walcott or Ash Young as in striker roles" 3rd Stiker if Benteke left, Austin too Much(£11 Millions) but good option if i honest.... I prefer go look cheaper option (£6-7 Millions) if Austin Sold I would Happy get him if not so go somewhere same when we find Benteke before he join us same price and same play style. Edited June 3, 2015 by Danny_Villaman84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 1. Guzan- KEEP (starter) 2. Baker - KEEP (starter) 4. Vlaar - KEEP (squad) 5. Okore - KEEP (starter) 6. Clark- KEEP (starter) 7. Bacuna - KEEP (squad) 9. Sinclair - KEEP (starter) 10. Weimann - KEEP (squad) 11. Agbonlahor - SELL 12. Cole - RELEASE 13. Steer - SELL 14. Senderos - KEEP (squad - pending other signings) 15. Westwood - KEEP (starter) 16. Delph - KEEP (starter) 18. Richardson - SELL 20. Benteke - SELL (if keeping isn't an option, obviously) 21. Hutton - KEEP (squad) 22. Gardner - KEEP (squad) 23. Cissokho - KEEP (squad) 24. Sanchez - KEEP (squad) 25. Gil - KEEP (squad) 27. Kozak - KEEP (starter) 28. N'Zogbia - SELL 29. Hepburn-Murphy - LOAN 31. Given - RELEASE 34. Lowton - SELL 39. Calder - LOAN 40. Grealish - KEEP (starter) Guzan RB Okore/Baker Clark/Baker Cissokho Westwood Delph CM Grealish/Gil Sinclair/Gil Kozak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 1. Guzan- SELL2. Baker - SELL4. Vlaar - SELL5. Okore - SELL6. Clark- SELL7. Bacuna - SELL9. Sinclair - SELL10. Weimann - SELL11. Agbonlahor - SELL12. Cole - SEND TO STUD13. Steer - SELL14. Senderos - SELL15. Westwood - SELL16. Delph - SELL18. Richardson - SELL20. Benteke - SELL 21. Hutton - SELL22. Gardner - SELL23. Cissokho - SELL24. Sanchez - SELL25. Gil - BURY/CREMATE27. Kozak - SELL28. N'Zogbia - SELL29. Hepburn-Murphy - SELL31. Given - RELEASE34. Lowton - SELL39. Calder - SELL40. Grealish - SELL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 1. Guzan - SELL 2. Baker - KEEP 4.Vlaar - RELEASE 5. Okore - SELL 6. Clark - KEEP 7. Bacuna - KEEP 8. Cleverley (LOAN) - RELEASE 9. Sinclair - KEEP 10. Weimann - SELL 11. Agbonlahor - KEEP 12. Cole - RELEASE 13. Steer - KEEP 14. Senderos - KEEP 15. Westwood - KEEP 16. Delph - KEEP 18. Richardson - SELL 20. Benteke - SELL 21. Hutton - KEEP 22. Gardner - KEEP 23. Cissokho - SELL 24. Sanchez - SELL 25. Gil - SELL 27. Kozak - KEEP 28. N'Zogbia - SELL/RELEASE 29. Hepburn-Murphy - LOAN 31. Given - RELEASE 34. Lowton - SELL 39. Calder - LOAN 40. Grealish - KEEP BASICALLY THE SQUAD IS SHITE ESPECIALLY THE DEFENCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 25m - Benteke 14m - Delph 6m - Grealish 5m - Clark 4.5m - Sinclair 4m - Okore 3.5m - Westwood 3.5m - Guzan 3.5m - Kozak 3m - Bacuna 3m - Hutton 3m - Weimann 3m - Gil 2.5m - Sanchez 2.5m - Gardner 2m - Agbonlahor 2m - Cissokho 1.5m - Lowton 1m - Everyone else ============ 92.5M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted June 4, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted June 4, 2015 1. Guzan - KEEP 2. Baker - KEEP 4.Vlaar - RELEASE 5. Okore - KEEP 6. Clark - KEEP 7. Bacuna - KEEP 8. Cleverley (LOAN) - GONE POSSIBLY 9. Sinclair - KEEP 10. Weimann - GONE POSSIBLY 11. Agbonlahor - SELL 12. Cole - RELEASE 13. Steer - KEEP 14. Senderos - RELEASE 15. Westwood - KEEP 16. Delph - KEEP 18. Richardson - SELL 20. Benteke - SELL 21. Hutton - KEEP 22. Gardner - KEEP 23. Cissokho - KEEP 24. Sanchez - KEEP 25. Gil - KEEP 27. Kozak - KEEP 28. N'Zogbia - SELL/RELEASE 29. Hepburn-Murphy - LOAN 31. Given - RELEASE 34. Lowton - SELL 39. Calder - LOAN 40. Grealish - KEEP To which we need 1st choice RB, LB and a CB. a midfielder and 2 strikers. Assuming Gardner steps up to the bench. So we'd probably need to be spending £60m+ this summer assuming Benteke goes. Probably more like $40m plus Benteke money so lets hope the new TV money goes on doubling the kind of money Randy has made available the last few years. Possibly not unrealistic but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 We need a character transplant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 lets hope the new TV money goes on doubling the kind of money Randy has made available the last few years. Possibly not unrealistic but who knows. We don't get any money from the new deal til summer 2017, since it doesn't start til the 2016/17 season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanO Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Only player that I would try to keep is Grealish the rest, if the right offers come in can do one. I would have added Benteke along side Jack but he doesn't care about AVFC I'll consign him to the Yorke bin. We are in as bad shape squad wise as I can ever recall, the table doesn't lie. Unless there is a major change in our transfer budget then I can see anything other than the same outcome next season (or worse!). Remember the definition of madness is to keep doing the same thing while expecting different results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Keepers: Guzan, Steer Defence: Okore, Cissoko, Clark, Baker, Bacuna - + LB, RB, CB Midfield: Delph, Gil ( unlikely sadly though), Sanchez, Grealish, Sinclair, Westwood, Gardner + CM Attack: Benteke, Kozak, Agbonlahor ( pragmatic, no other team will take him ) + CF x 2 flog the rest, ( or send the kids on loan ) I think Lowton is the only one not on that list that I'd keep. Maybe Hutton as well, we've all forgotten how good he was this season before his injury. For the rest, unfortunately no price is too low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted June 5, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2015 lets hope the new TV money goes on doubling the kind of money Randy has made available the last few years. Possibly not unrealistic but who knows. We don't get any money from the new deal til summer 2017, since it doesn't start til the 2016/17 season Ok, sorry not the £5.4bn one then, I did read prem clubs are getting record revenues though next season? Then the serious wedge kicks in with the new deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) 1. Guzan - KEEP 2. Baker - KEEP 4.Vlaar - RELEASE 5. Okore - KEEP 6. Clark - KEEP 7. Bacuna - KEEP 8. Cleverley (LOAN) - GONE 9. Sinclair - KEEP 10. Weimann - SELL 11. Agbonlahor - KEEP 12. Cole - SELL 13. Steer - KEEP 14. Senderos - SELL 15. Westwood - KEEP 16. Delph - KEEP 18. Richardson - SELL 20. Benteke - KEEP (highly unlikely though!) 21. Hutton - KEEP 22. Gardner - KEEP 23. Cissokho - SELL 24. Sanchez - KEEP 25. Gil - KEEP 27. Kozak - KEEP 28. N'Zogbia - SELL 29. Hepburn-Murphy - LOAN 31. Given - SELL 34. Lowton - SELL 39. Calder - LOAN 40. Grealish - KEEP Others: Bennett - SELL Luna - SELL Sylla - SELL Herd - RELEASE Tonev - SELL Helenius - SELL Bent - RELEASE Our defence, midfield and strikeforce needs an overhaul Defence: 1x RB to be first choice, with Hutton as back up (I'd revert Bacuna back to midfield) 1x CB to be challenging first choice (Vlaar's replacement) 2x LB we need a first choice and squad player (maybe Lewis Kinsella can step up this year?) Midfield: 2x CM to be first choice (Cleverly's replacement) and squad player 2x AM to replace N'Zogbia/Gil and whoever else TS deems to be a loser. Attack: 3x ST to replace Benteke (to be first choice), Bent and Weimann (squad pushing for starting) I make that 11 players in - never going to happen in a month of sundays (especially on the likely transfer budget) Edited June 5, 2015 by theboyangel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryVilla15 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 1. Guzan -Keep. Bench or starter hasnt really deserved to be let go made 1 mistake 2. Baker -Keep he's playing good. Starter or Squad Joe Bennett - keep for pre season if he plays well then keep him 4. Vlaar -Release. Bye bye Vlaar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 it is will Very smallest size, well good for us as we dont play Euro League or Cup. Let hope not injury load next season -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keep:- GOALKEEPER - Guzan, Steers DEFENDER - Hutton, Okore, Clark, Baker, Cissoko, (might Vlaar if we cant find replacement him) MIDFIELD - Delph, Westwood, Sanchez, Gardner, Cleverly, CREATIVE / WINGER - Gill, Grealish, Sinchair, Baunca ( i think he better player as winger) STRIKER - Benteke, Kozak Buy New GK, RB and CB, LB, (CM if Cleverly left), LW, Striker - 2x Link up Striker and Finisher Type (very busy summer transfer unfortunate these need to get top 10) rest of these need to go (senior) include Gabby as His wage too high and not effective regular as we need him so we need let him go for better player sadly as he is villa fan... or loan (for young players and give chance to fight first team place like Robinson and Murphy, Calder, Kinsella etc etc) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (vs Regular Team) (vs weak Team) ------------------------Guzan----------------------- --------------------------Guzan------------------- New RB------Okore------Clark------New LB New RB--------Okore------Clark------New LB -------Cleverly---Westwood---Delph------ -----------Cleverly-----Westwood---Delph------ ---------------Gill----------Grealish----------- ----------New ST-------Benteke------Sinchair ----------------------Benteke------------------- (gabby if not buy ST) (vs Strong Team) (Vs Opponent Weak against Winger) -----------------------Guzan--------------------- ------------------------Guzan---------------------- -----------Okore-----Clark-----Baker--------- Hutton------Okore----------Clark------Cissoko New RB--------------------------------------New LB Sinchair----Cleverly--------Delph----New LW -----------------------Sanchez--------------------- ----------------New ST---------Benteke-----------------------Cleverly----Westwood----Delph-------- (proper winger to got free to attack and full back sit to Stop - counter attack)-------------------------Benteke-------------------- (Gabby in ST if not buy ST) (okore or Clark to DM if our ball to kept ball around)------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GK - Steers or Serguit as Back up or Go scout buy new GKFB - Robertson and Tripper for Full Back will Very good sign. (i dont think both will join as big club or other club will get him as money more bid that us) CB - Huge fans of Shawcross... Chester quiet not bad Centre Half, Best Option I think we should go.. Micah Richards Quick Centre half to Cover Okore also can play Full Back) Good Shout for me and Better Balance if we push up. So Okore or Richards will able stop fast striker. whiles we can control opponent to creative more chance without worry slow defender back line)CM - need scout or Gardner to Step up if Cleverly dont sign LW- Townsend ? - Honest i don't kept on him but good sign if he under sherwood we need go scout Left Foot who Like Play Left Winger work hard and got win mental, passion, track back. ( covert Bennett as winger ? if cheapest option ) AM - Schuab (if Gill left) Link up Striker - Ings (i think he is great choice to partner Benteke or first choice (if Benteke left), also he good at link up and work hard striker), and go scout if he not join us.... "Saunder Style" to with BentekePace Striker - need fast with good dribble, and Super finisher, Work Hard, team work. need scout any suggest? "Walcott or Ash Young as in striker roles" 3rd Stiker if Benteke left, Austin too Much(£11 Millions) but good option if i honest.... I prefer go look cheaper option (£6-7 Millions) if Austin Sold I would Happy get him if not so go somewhere same when we find Benteke before he join us same price and same play style. You are Michael Ault and I claim my £5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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