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4 hours ago, colhint said:

That's OK but how many seats in the North do you think an Arch remainer from London will bring back?

They only lost 400,000 that way, they lost 2 million from the remain camp and there will be plenty more who did vote Labour that may never again

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12 minutes ago, hippo said:

Problem is - you can join labour for £3 now - and vote for the next leader early next year.

That's open to so much abuse its incredible - that's the reason for the delay - to recruit a load of young angrys - who back Rayner/RBL 

Why would it be only these who would join, rather than a wider group of supporters, or even opponents?  In fact, opponents are more likely to afford the higher price.

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3 minutes ago, bickster said:

They only lost 400,000 that way, they lost 2 million from the remain camp and there will be plenty more who did vote Labour that may never again

Those figures are wrong, and are based on a tweet which simply netted off some broad figures.  Read the thread.

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7 minutes ago, hippo said:

Imagine the uproar - if someone senior ranking said " the next leader must be male and he must come from London"

Why has where the next leader lives become a factor .....bonkers...

But if we recognise that of our 55 Prime Ministers to date, 28 went to Oxford and 20 to Eton...is that ok?

Is it ok if we just allow it without vocalising it?

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Just now, peterms said:

But if we recognise that of our 55 Prime Ministers to date, 28 went to Oxford and 20 to Eton...is that ok?

Is it ok if we just allow it without vocalising it?

Whats that got to do with the Labour Party? They've only had 6 PMs, only one of them from London and half of them didn't go to Oxford or Cambridge and none went to Eton. Three of them were Scottish

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3 minutes ago, bickster said:

Whats that got to do with the Labour Party?

It's about where our leaders come from.  The concept of "leaders" is not specific to a political party, and in fact one prevalent criticism of Corbyn was that he wasn't enough like the stereotype of a "leader" for those who take a deferential approach to politics.

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4 minutes ago, bickster said:

Rubbish, the criticism of Corbyn is that he was a shit leader.

You have demonstrated the exact point I made.

5 minutes ago, bickster said:

he was more a puppet of McLusky and Milne, that specialised in preaching to the converted

 

Do you read the Mail, and repeat its insights?

5 minutes ago, bickster said:

And as for the AS crisis, whatever you may think of that, he never even came close to getting a grip on it

It is not a crisis, and you will see that It will soon evaporate if it hasn't already.  It was a convenient tool to attack him, nothing more.

5 minutes ago, bickster said:

he couldn't even convince anyone that he'd press the button if he needed to

He wouldn't be keen to evaporate millions of people, leading to a conflagration that would destroy the planet?  Bastard!  Lefty, white feather, pacifist bastard!

6 minutes ago, bickster said:

dressed like a tramp,

Get a grip, man.

6 minutes ago, bickster said:

His new form of leadership appeared to be anti-leadership

Many find that rather appealing, especially those who have not served in the forces of repression.

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Yet again I'll give up. I can't be bothered with people that refuse to read what is actually said.

Possibly the worst conclusions from a post and selective quoting ever witnessed. Well done for missing out all the context

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Peter you appear to be suggesting he was any good. Now given that he was the Leader of a major political party which has just had it's worst defeat in the last 85 years near enough, how can you defend him. Point for point is ok,  but it's like saying, elmo is a good crosser, but slow, or connor has great free kick but not so good getting stuck in. He was meant, with the support of half a million members to win, or even come close. It was like Brazil 1 Germany 7.

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14 minutes ago, bickster said:

Yet again I'll give up. I can't be bothered with people that refuse to read what is actually said.

I think your problem with my post is that I did actually read what you said.  It was generic insults.

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3 hours ago, Jon said:

King Clive for me.  Ticks the ethnic minority box, top guy, ex army which may appeal to some voters on the right.  On the left, so electable in terms of party membership. 

He's impressed, certainly. Good call.

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6 hours ago, peterms said:

I think your problem with my post is that I did actually read what you said.  It was generic insults.

Peter, I've always wondered why you so ferociously defend someone you claim to not vote for. I'd be interested to find out why. Care to share?

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I personally think Labour's problems have been driven massively by Twitter. Most people in Westminster use Twitter, but it's particularly popular among (and taken most seriously by) the left.

The problems are that most ordinary people don't use Twitter... if they do, it probably isn't for politics... and what "bangs" on Twitter is completely unrepresentative of what most people think. That's especially true when you've blocked any "evil Tories", "red Tories", "Tory stooge journos", "neoliberals", "centrist dads", "Blairites", etc.

When you see people like Stella Creasy talk about the death threats and misogynistic abuse they get on Twitter, okay it's terrible, but my first thought is always, do you seriously care what some anonymous teenager has said on the internet?

Obsessing over online trolling and hashtag debates has ruined the Labour party, and that goes way beyond Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott. It dates back to Ed Miliband, and he's the one who started this drift into self-congratulatory virtue signalling over pragmatism. The whole FBPE movement is similarly deluded. It drives me nuts.

 

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10 minutes ago, Awol said:

Bickster labelled as a Daily Mail reader..

I’m off to church, the end-times are coming. 

TBF it was one of the most mail-esque posts I've ever seen from him.  

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