The Chairman Mao resembling, Monarchy hating, threat to Britain, Labour Party thread

[blandy]

But you said

1 hour ago, tonyh29 said:

Enfranchising the around 3.6m EU citizens living in the UK

So if People living in the UK can vote in a UK referendum, then my logic, from what you said was People living in Scotland can vote in a Scottish referendum

[bickster]

2 minutes ago, tonyh29 said:

If a person from say Italy has the right to vote in a referendum  affecting the Uk , presumably as it also directly affects them , why shouldn't that same person have a right to vote in a Scottish referendum that also affects the UK  ?

A person from Italy didn't have the right to vote in the referendum though did they, which in itself was a pretty undemocratic manoeuvre 

[tonyh29]

Just now, bickster said:

A person from Italy didn't have the right to vote in the referendum though did they, which in itself was a pretty undemocratic manoeuvre 

We weren't discussing the last referendum , we were discussing a policy that could become law should Labour form the next government .. I was mulling out loud the ramifications of such a policy

 

 

 

 

[bickster]

12 minutes ago, tonyh29 said:

We weren't discussing the last referendum , we were discussing a policy that could become law should Labour form the next government .. I was mulling out loud the ramifications of such a policy

And I was saying the alternate view is pretty undemocratic

[tonyh29]

7 minutes ago, blandy said:

But you said

So if People living in the UK can vote in a UK referendum, then my logic, from what you said was People living in Scotland can vote in a Scottish referendum

I think we have different definitions of logic tbh 

a Scottish referendum impacts all  people living in the UK does it not , how can someone argue its undemocratic to not give a vote to an Italian in one referendum that affects them  , when denying them a vote in another  .. i could accept an argument of  devolution  grants Scotland the right to make its own policy but even that is restricted  , hence the current need for parliament to grant them the referendum

anyhow , as i said I was mainly thinking out loud about if it would have wider implications  , they've got to get elected first 

[bickster]

1 minute ago, tonyh29 said:

I think we have different definitions of logic tbh 

a Scottish referendum impacts all  people living in the UK does it not , how can someone argue its undemocratic to not give a vote to an Italian in one referendum that affects them  , when denying them a vote in another  .. i could accept an argument of  devolution  grants Scotland the right to make its own policy but even that is restricted  , hence the current need for parliament to grant them the referendum

anyhow , as i said I was mainly thinking out loud about if it would have wider implications  , they've got to get elected first 

You know Independence is the right of self-determination, it's the self bit that's important here

[tonyh29]

1 minute ago, bickster said:

You know Independence is the right of self-determination, it's the self bit that's important here

the right to self-determination ... as long as we let them  via  a section 30 order  

[chrisp65]

I’m in the same train carriage as Barry Gardiner, if anyone has any questions they want put to him...

[Xann]

Get him in a nutscape shot.

[chrisp65]

8 minutes ago, Xann said:

Get him in a nutscape shot.

Two seats in front and diagonally across, and holding up his phone as he types, tantalisingly just out of reading range...unfortunately there’s a bloke opposite him, facing me that keeps looking over.

I’ll see what I can do...

I should have gone with shiftiest claim to fame thread with this one.

 

**update! GWR internet blocks flickr, which is what I use to upload photos!**

 

Edited October 4, 2019 by chrisp65

[chrisp65]

...which by extension, suggests VT is formally endorsed and approved by GWR, the world’s premier train service for arriving in Newport late and penniless.

[Xann]

Pull this off and I'll shout you the crystal skull cocktail jug **with the sweets and sparklers** from the local tequila joint.

[tonyh29]

2 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

...which by extension, suggests VT is formally endorsed and approved by GWR, the world’s premier train service for arriving in Newport late and penniless.

Fickr is banned in China , maybe you've stumbled onto something and that GWR is a state sponsored Chinese government railway

[chrisp65]

3 minutes ago, Xann said:

Pull this off and I'll shout you the crystal skull cocktail jug **with the sweets and sparklers** from the local tequila joint.

Oh I’ve got the photo’s, what I don’t have is the ability to get them on here..... yet

[bickster]

I'd have siuggested performing a lobotomy but it has been pointed out the operation has already been succesful

[Xann]

6 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

Oh I’ve got the photo’s, what I don’t have is the ability to get them on here..... yet

In the nutscape format?

Bravo.

That's tequila, a blunt and a taxi, my shout.

 

[chrisp65]

‘Barry had just finished the ‘brief highlights’ version of Labour’s Brexit policy’

 

I should point out, he was travelling standard class, working all the while, smiled at people and had nothing from the trolley on expenses, not even a mojito. 

 

 

[Mic09]

1 hour ago, chrisp65 said:

 

 

I should point out, he was travelling standard class, working all the while, smiled at people and had nothing from the trolley on expenses, not even a mojito. 

 

 

You got the wrong guy in that case.

[peterms]

1 hour ago, Mic09 said:

You got the wrong guy in that case.

More like you got the wrong guy.  What a surprise.

[snowychap]