PompeyVillan Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Training and education are different and both equally important. Less obsession with 'training' in schools, colleges and universities would benefit the country as a whole. We need more critical thinkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 hour ago, PompeyVillan said: Training and education are different and both equally important. Less obsession with 'training' in schools, colleges and universities would benefit the country as a whole. We need more critical thinkers and fewer knee-jerk monosyllabic critical writers. Fixed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, MakemineVanilla said: 2 hours ago, PompeyVillan said: Training and education are different and both equally important. Less obsession with 'training' in schools, colleges and universities would benefit the country as a whole. We need more critical thinkers and fewer knee-jerk monosyllabic critical writers . Fixed! What crap. Edited July 8, 2017 by snowychap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 7 hours ago, itdoesntmatterwhatthissay said: But as one of the leaders of innovation surely there's an opportunity to start providing the world with high quality British products? Do we not already provide the world with high quality British products? Where I'm going is to ask what is the mechanism for translating this apparent comparative advantage in 'innovation' to an actual economic advantage, such as a net increase in manufacturing exports? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 200,000 people in Durham, at the Miners Gala today, to hear Jeremy and a few others speak, and celebrate the biggest trade union event in Europe. Amazing day, speaking to comrades from all over the country. Always the highlight of the year, for the Labour movement in the north. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, dAVe80 said: 200,000 people in Durham, at the Miners Gala today, to hear Jeremy and a few others speak, and celebrate the biggest trade union event in Europe. Amazing day, speaking to comrades from all over the country. Always the highlight of the year, for the Labour movement in the north. Glad you had a good day mate and good to hear there was such a good turn out. Didn't some prat interrupt Corbyns speech? Edited July 8, 2017 by markavfc40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: Didn't some prat interrupt his speech? Someone did - not sure that made her a prat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Just now, markavfc40 said: Glad you had a good day mate and good to hear there was such a good turn out. Didn't some prat interrupt his speech? A woman who had too much sun (and drink), tried to get at him (not sure if it was to hit or hug him). He was very good about it, and although she was removed, he said he would speak to her after his speech. My mate worked on his social media campaign, and was on stage during the speeches, said someone from Jeremy's team was keeping her calm, and speaking to her. while Jeremy finished his speech. Absolutely superb day though. Heartily recommend a visit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, snowychap said: Someone did - not sure that made her a prat. I have just taken the time to watch it and she seemed pissed up. In fairness to Corbyn as you'd expect he handled it very well and said he'd speak with her after. I take back calling her a prat as it now transpires she was a pissed up prat ;-) Edited July 8, 2017 by markavfc40 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, dAVe80 said: A woman who had too much sun (and drink), tried to get at him (not sure if it was to hit or hug him). He was very good about it, and although she was removed, he said he would speak to her after his speech. My mate worked on his social media campaign, and was on stage during the speeches, said someone from Jeremy's team was keeping her calm, and speaking to her. while Jeremy finished his speech. Absolutely superb day though. Heartily recommend a visit. Cheers for the info mate. Sounds like you had a great day and from the video of the woman trying to get at him I just watched looks like you had great weather. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Just now, markavfc40 said: I have just taken the time to watch it and she seemed pissed up. In fairness to Corbyn as you'd expect he handled it very well and said he'd speak with her after. I take back calling her a prat as it now transpires she was a pissed up prat ;-) If that had been May or Hammond or Osborne would you have called her a 'prat'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Just now, snowychap said: If that had been May or Hammond or Osborne would you have called her a 'prat'? Possibly not given the power they have had and the amount of people who have suffered due to their decisions I'd probably have to consider if she had good reason to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Just now, markavfc40 said: Possibly not given the power they have had and the amount of people who have suffered due to their decisions I'd probably have to consider if she had good reason to. That's utter shit then, Mark. You've written her off as a 'pissed up prat' just because it's Corbyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, snowychap said: That's utter shit then, Mark. You've written her off as a 'pissed up prat' just because it's Corbyn. Maybe I have. You know what mate I am not one to get bogged down in petty crap like this so I'll be leaving it at that. Maybe I am wrong and she had good reason to interrupt, and continue to, after he repeatedly told her he would speak to her after. Edited July 8, 2017 by markavfc40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 I was there, and assumed she was a pissed up prat. The signs were all there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Just now, markavfc40 said: Maybe I have. You know what mate I am not one to get bogged down in petty crap like this so I'll be leaving it at that. Maybe I am wrong and she had good reason to interrupt and continue to after he repeatedly told her he would speak to her after. Yep, petty crap is a public questioning of the leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 hour ago, dAVe80 said: 200,000 people in Durham, at the Miners Gala today, to hear Jeremy and a few others speak, and celebrate the biggest trade union event in Europe. Amazing day, speaking to comrades from all over the country. Always the highlight of the year, for the Labour movement in the north. Gutted I missed that, sounds right up my street. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 1 hour ago, snowychap said: Do we not already provide the world with high quality British products? Where I'm going is to ask what is the mechanism for translating this apparent comparative advantage in 'innovation' to an actual economic advantage, such as a net increase in manufacturing exports? We do indeed and so opening up those trade avenues is a necessity in a post-brexit world. Certain regulatory changes may help in that respect too; for example, fisheries policy. But I also think there are opportunities we could further explore to invest in British industry and create new export markets as well as compete with some existing ones. Despite our innovation, the report I linked also points to problems with access to finance. Government can solve that problem directly or through procurement, particularly if it sets an agenda like renewables; an agenda which could have been better supported without an ECJ ruling. It will require the identification of strength and future industries but that should be a challenge relished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted July 9, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 9, 2017 Worth noting an investigation by a Greenpeace affiliated news team recently concluded we **** the fishing industry ourselves. We chose to allow a system that let fishing quotas be carved up and bartered meaning 2/3rds of our fishing rights are held by 3 companies through various trades and parent companies. Meaning, for instance, a tiny boat was officially allowed to take an impossible 4 tons of fish a day, but never left the marina. That same boat accounts for a fifth of the take for the South West officially. Not the EU's fault. Ours. But it's one of the darlings of the eurosceptic crowd so nobody cares. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 57 minutes ago, itdoesntmatterwhatthissay said: We do indeed and so opening up those trade avenues is a necessity in a post-brexit world. Certain regulatory changes may help in that respect too; for example, fisheries policy. But I also think there are opportunities we could further explore to invest in British industry and create new export markets as well as compete with some existing ones. Despite our innovation, the report I linked also points to problems with access to finance. Government can solve that problem directly or through procurement, particularly if it sets an agenda like renewables; an agenda which could have been better supported without an ECJ ruling. It will require the identification of strength and future industries but that should be a challenge relished. What is the mechanism for translating this apparent comparative advantage in 'innovation' to an actual economic advantage, such as a net increase in manufacturing exports? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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