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1 hour ago, tonyh29 said:

 I voted Tory once and lib Dem once ... so arguably I'm as much a woolly Lib as a Tory ... tbh despite widely held beliefs that I'm a die hard Tory I'm sorta against all the parties , I just happen to be more against Labour and the Greens policy wise  ... I do hold a view that Thatcher was this countries greatest leader after Churchill though  , which probably explains a lot  :)  ...

I think though to answer your question the questions in the political compass are skewed in such a way that unless you are Genghis Khan you will always fall in the green section ... I was somewhere around Plaid Cyrmu  the fact that some of the other posters who completed it came almost at the bottom left sorta confirms that even in our little green square I'm right of some who are very far left :) 

 

 

 

Thanks - I have always wondered because you do post a lot in defence of the Tories but maybe that is to add balance which is no bad thing. And you are right about those questionnaires being skewed. 

It all does rather beg the question though who did you vote for all those others times! Someone as politically a tune as yourself surely wouldn't have scrapped your vote and you seem old enough to have been around for more than two elections. 

Apologies if this is post on poster but I'm not being nasty and genuinely interested because context is everything, of course you don't have to answer! 

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Just now, villaglint said:

Thanks - I have always wondered because you do post a lot in defence of the Tories but maybe that is to add balance which is no bad thing. And you are right about those questionnaires being skewed. 

It all does rather beg the question though who did you vote for all those others times! Someone as politically a tune as yourself surely wouldn't have scrapped your vote and you seem old enough to have been around for more than two elections. 

Apologies if this is post on poster but I'm not being nasty and genuinely interested because context is everything, of course you don't have to answer! 

Happy to answer  ....

My MP is Phillip Hammond so needless to say my vote doesn't really count so sadly I'm one of those people that doesn't bother to vote  ... plus when I wrote to him about the rip off airport passenger taxes he wrote back to say he could only vote against the the government by resigning from cabinet and wasn't prepared to do so , so being the sorta bloke that holds a grudge I won't vote for him anyway :) 

 

without doubt I post more in defence of the Tories ,by and large on some of their policies they are more akin to my own views ,  and I doubt I've ever defended Labour ( well actually that's not true , I seem to recall being in favour of Browns decision to extend school leaving age to 18 , which amusingly enough at the time most of the Labour supporters on here at that time were against )  

I think you can see a pattern emerging here :) 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, tonyh29 said:

Happy to answer  ....

My MP is Phillip Hammond so needless to say my vote doesn't really count so sadly I'm one of those people that doesn't bother to vote  ... plus when I wrote to him about the rip off airport passenger taxes he wrote back to say he could only vote against the the government by resigning from cabinet and wasn't prepared to do so , so being the sorta bloke that holds a grudge I won't vote for him anyway :) 

 

without doubt I post more in defence of the Tories ,by and large on some of their policies they are more akin to my own views ,  and I doubt I've ever defended Labour ( well actually that's not true , I seem to recall being in favour of Browns decision to extend school leaving age to 18 , which amusingly enough at the time most of the Labour supporters on here at that time were against )  

I think you can see a pattern emerging here :) 

 

 

 

Yes you are the rabib Tory son of Thatcher! I claim my £5 and no I won't take Euro's.

 

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3 hours ago, tonyh29 said:

it wasn't 48% of the country  .. it was 48% of the people that voted   ... in remains case  16,141,241  million   so more like 25% of the country :P

 

true, or 35% of the electorate compared to 37%. But then, 28% of the electorate didn't care enough to vote for change. So, we're doing this off the expressed wishes of maybe 26% of the entire population.

That's 74% of the country that didn't vote for it, and 63% of the electorate. Both those numbers look like a majority to me :P

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5 minutes ago, a m ole said:

That's 74% of the country that didn't vote for it, and 63% of the electorate. Both those numbers look like a majority to me :P

Aside from the playfulness, there's something in this.  Recognise that the system is what it is, but the various people saying "we must do Brexit, we must not go against the will of the country" and such like are not on very strong ground, really. Yes, absolutely more people vote for leave, for all the various reasons than voted to stay, and that's fine. It's not the leaving that is the big issue for me, it's the way any objections to aspects of the way it is being done are shouted down as going against what there country wanted.

In particular, Corbyn for example putting a 3 line whip on his MPs to support the Gov't's approach on A50, or the various tory and UKIPy bells railing about democracy while having done nothing but campaign for hard brexit, which no-one was offered as the "choice"

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3 minutes ago, dAVe80 said:

Some good news coming out of North Durham, that Laura Pidcock is going to be the candidate for Labour. An excellent comrade, and a proper Socialist!

Surely good news for the Tories should have gone in the Tory thread :P

 

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13 minutes ago, blandy said:

 

No, that's her brother stu, who is a Tory :)

(and if that doesn't get me some of them likes, nothing will)

 

Amongst some strong competition that could be your worst one yet :) 

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On 25/02/2017 at 01:16, dAVe80 said:

Rachel Holiday was the left choice for Labour, in Copeland, but was beaten in the CLP vote by 13 votes. She is from a working class background, and has family links to Sellafield, as well as being the current, 'Cumbrian Woman of the Year'. I'm told by people who campaigned in Copeland, that there was a confusion among some of the electorate, who didn't even realise she wasn't the Labour candidate, and had no idea who Gillian Troughton was. Seems like a wasted opportunity. by the Copeland CLP, but you know how it is at the moment. Anything to keep those horrible leftie Trotts out! 

They've reselected Troughton according to the Beeb.

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Sunday Politics presenter Richard Moss has a number of updates on selections.

- Gillian Troughton re-selected for Copeland for Labour. She came second to Trudy Harrison in February's by-election. Conservative majority 2,147  

 

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24 minutes ago, snowychap said:

They've reselected Troughton according to the Beeb.

*sigh* Well that's a kick in the pants. On a happier note, Tracy Harvey is going to be the candidate for Middlesbrough South & East Cleveland. This is great news for the left in the North East, along with Laura Pidcock's selection in North West Durham. Some actual bloody Socialists!

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