The Chairman Mao resembling, Monarchy hating, threat to Britain, Labour Party thread

[bickster]

I know he's no longer a Labour Party member but it's still the best place to post this.

@sneposted in the cheery twits topic a thread of AI images of Trump being arrested, in court, jailed etc, ahich really was very amusing as a story. In the replies was this...

I don't get it. Yes of course its meant to be funny, so the best case scenario is that he is a humourless word removed to add to his charge sheet. But that could also be read as some sort of defence of Trump which given both's Putin connections isn't exactly the cleverest response either

There is also the chance that he's just plain stupid.

[bickster]

But he actually follows it up with this...

Yes Chris, idiotic and juvenile is quite often funny

Appearing on and taking money from Iranian State TV is a bit of a word-removed's trick though

Poor idiot is getting pummelled by a semi pile-on all of his own making. Not found a single reply to him yet that isn't laughing at him or calling him an Iranian stooge

[MakemineVanilla]

I have to admit that I was surprised that Starmer pressured McDonnell and Abbott to distance themselves from the Stop The War campaign.

Labour have a long tradition of being opposed to war, and resisted conscription until it was absolutely unavoidable in the 1930s.

During WW2 it was the Left who forced the government to allow civilians to use the London Underground as air-raid shelters, when the government sent police to keep them out.

Labour wishing to end one member one vote seems like a weakening of democracy in the party.

[Davkaus]

Have Stop The War come up with any ideas for how to stop the war other than NATO states self-flagellating and going to any necessary lengths to appease Putin? They're the biggest bunch of useful (to Russia) idiots going.

Edited March 21, 2023 by Davkaus

[Jareth]

Sooo, Labour have stopped 60% of BAME councillors in Leicester from standing again - while also stopping 20% of white councillors from standing again. Leicester meanwhile has a majority of BAME citizens. And Labour haven't responded to Forde's assessment this year. Labour does not represent BAME communities - and that's a whole load of crap. I'm at the point where I don't care if Sunak gets back in.

[Demitri_C]

23 minutes ago, Jareth said:

Sooo, Labour have stopped 60% of BAME councillors in Leicester from standing again - while also stopping 20% of white councillors from standing again. Leicester meanwhile has a majority of BAME citizens. And Labour haven't responded to Forde's assessment this year. Labour does not represent BAME communities - and that's a whole load of crap. I'm at the point where I don't care if Sunak gets back in.

Wow really thats crazy if thats thw case?

 

Edited March 24, 2023 by Demitri_C

[Jareth]

20 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

Wow really thats crazy if thats thw case?

 

Could have been more sensationalist about it - but was disciplined on the stats. I think at heart it's a left purge - but the real story is that it's a purge of disadvantaged people - there's a reason BAME people are attracted to the left, because it represents their view - they are underdogs. It's so shit - it'll win an election, but ignore BAME folks at your peril.  

Just imagine if 60% of Jewish councillors had been stopped from standing again. That'd be wrong - right? 

Edited March 24, 2023 by Jareth

[LondonLax]

4 hours ago, Jareth said:

 

Just imagine if 60% of Jewish councillors had been stopped from standing again. That'd be wrong - right? 

Only if they were removed because they were Jewish. 

Just because you belong a minority group shouldn’t make you untouchable.

[Seat68]

6 hours ago, Jareth said:

Sooo, Labour have stopped 60% of BAME councillors in Leicester from standing again - while also stopping 20% of white councillors from standing again. Leicester meanwhile has a majority of BAME citizens. And Labour haven't responded to Forde's assessment this year. Labour does not represent BAME communities - and that's a whole load of crap. I'm at the point where I don't care if Sunak gets back in.

Would it still be racially based if they were replaced by candidates from a BAME community?

[bickster]

6 hours ago, Jareth said:

Sooo, Labour have stopped 60% of BAME councillors in Leicester from standing again - while also stopping 20% of white councillors from standing again. Leicester meanwhile has a majority of BAME citizens. And Labour haven't responded to Forde's assessment this year. Labour does not represent BAME communities - and that's a whole load of crap. I'm at the point where I don't care if Sunak gets back in.

Won't somebody think of the lefty trots, 100% of them have been deselected

[magnkarl]

On 21/03/2023 at 21:50, MakemineVanilla said:

I have to admit that I was surprised that Starmer pressured McDonnell and Abbott to distance themselves from the Stop The War campaign.

Labour have a long tradition of being opposed to war, and resisted conscription until it was absolutely unavoidable in the 1930s.

During WW2 it was the Left who forced the government to allow civilians to use the London Underground as air-raid shelters, when the government sent police to keep them out.

Labour wishing to end one member one vote seems like a weakening of democracy in the party.

Stop the War should be renamed 'Help Putin' tbh. It's a joke of a blinkered organisation.

[OutByEaster?]

 

I mean...y'know.

 

[ml1dch]

8 hours ago, Jareth said:

Sooo, Labour have stopped 60% of BAME councillors in Leicester from standing again - while also stopping 20% of white councillors from standing again. Leicester meanwhile has a majority of BAME citizens. And Labour haven't responded to Forde's assessment this year. Labour does not represent BAME communities - and that's a whole load of crap. I'm at the point where I don't care if Sunak gets back in.

This is one of those things that probably needs a bit more context. I'm guessing that they've not been prevented from standing again because of their BAME status. If I really had to go out on a limb, I'd guess that they also haven't been prevented from standing again for being "on the left", as there are countless people "on the left" who are standing.

Has there been an official reason given? It may well be a terrible scandal, and if so then it's definitely A Bad Thing.

But I'm reminded of the six hours of outrage over Sam Tarry  being "deselected for being on the left", before five minutes of Googling showing nothing more sinister than the local party selecting the guy they originally wanted before Tarry was forced upon them in 2019.

[Jareth]

2 hours ago, bickster said:

Won't somebody think of the lefty trots, 100% of them have been deselected

"It's so great that all those Jewish members of Labour have been expelled, they were all trots anyway" Mate it is not good, to expel a majority of people from an ethnic background - even if you seriously and I question this, seriously believe they have all read Trotsky. I think you're suffering from privilege. 

[Jareth]

2 minutes ago, ml1dch said:

But I'm reminded of the six hours of outrage over Sam Tarry  being "deselected for being on the left", before five minutes of Googling showing nothing more sinister than the local party selecting the guy they originally wanted before Tarry was forced upon them in 2019.

100% of Sam Tarry was blocked., mostly because he was a knob end. 

[Jareth]

2 hours ago, Seat68 said:

Would it still be racially based if they were replaced by candidates from a BAME community?

It would be, if they do not represent Leicester. Because Labour are parachuting in candidates all over the place. There's a massive purge on- meanwhile the membership card states - "The Labour Party is a democratic socialist party". Whatever you believe in that is hypocrisy, and that is the incoming government - great start isn't it. 

[blandy]

1 minute ago, Jareth said:

"It's so great that all those Jewish members of Labour have been expelled, they were all trots anyway" Mate it is not good, to expel a majority of people from an ethnic background - even if you seriously and I question this, seriously believe they have all read Trotsky. I think you're suffering from privilege. 

Hold on. We’ve gone from some council candidates not being re-selected to “expulsions” all of a sudden. What expulsions?

Next, Leicester has more non white people than white people. Its Labour council has more non white councillors than white. In deciding not to re select some councillors, unsurprisingly given that most of the councillors are BAME, most of the deselected are BAME. Their replacements are ??

To jump to the conclusion or allegation that it’s racist seems unjustified at this point. It looks like a case of what is either seen as party hq getting a grip or party hq control freakery depending on your outlook.

[Jareth]

1 minute ago, blandy said:

Hold on. We’ve gone from some council candidates not being re-selected to “expulsions” all of a sudden. What expulsions?

Next, Leicester has more non white people than white people. Its Labour council has more non white councillors than white. In deciding not to re select some councillors, unsurprisingly given that most of the councillors are BAME, most of the deselected are BAME. Their replacements are ??

To jump to the conclusion or allegation that it’s racist seems unjustified at this point. It looks like a case of what is either seen as party hq getting a grip or party hq control freakery depending on your outlook.

I'll do it again. What if Muswell Hill Labour were prevented from selecting 60% of candidates and instead had Labour NEC impose candidates? Is that ok?

[Kuwabatake Sanjuro]

In other news supporting Holocaust denialism isn't a problem for labour these days.

 

[magnkarl]

5 minutes ago, Jareth said:

I'll do it again. What if Muswell Hill Labour were prevented from selecting 60% of candidates and instead had Labour NEC impose candidates? Is that ok?

Considering the left of Labour did exactly this all over the country when they didn't let many centre-Labour candidates stand, it's a bit rich this. Pot, meet kettle.

Edited March 24, 2023 by magnkarl