maqroll Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I've heard things and read things about how some clubs are rightly or wrongly affiliated or associated with a variety of labels. For instance, I've heard that the following clubs are considered "middle class": Arsenal Aston Villa Fulham QPR Chelsea And that these clubs have the following religion tag: Everton- Catholic Liverpool- Protestant ^^^Which seems counter-intuitive to me, I thought Liverpool and Celtic have like an unofficial brotherhood or something Chelsea-Protestant Spurs- Jewish Politics: Newcastle- Left Wing Both Manchester clubs- Left Wing Other than the Spurs-Jewish thing, which seems to be universally accepted as fact, what do you think about these other things? Total rubbish scraped from the bottom of the internet, or is there some validity to some of it? Are there other English clubs that you associate with class, religion or politics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jimzk5 Posted March 18, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2015 Small heath - scum class 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I've noticed that quite a few clubs in other countries have strong political connections but we don't really have that here. Even as somebody who takes a keen interest in politics and has a lot of strong views I'm glad that it's not really a factor in English football - I hope it stays that way too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Where did you hear about Villa being considered middle class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 ive heard it before but think its something that comes from the start up of the club. Fans like Prince William, David Cameron dont really help it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristchurchVillan Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Wrong way round...... Everton - Protestant Liverpool - Catholic You used to get the woolly hats in the early 90s that were half Liverpool and Celtic and half Everton and Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) Aston VIlla. Edited March 18, 2015 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 From what I understand, Villa are more of a middle-class club in that most of the support is based in the suburbs and surrounding counties rather than the inner city which is more the domain of Small Heath. I might be wrong. I've noticed that quite a few clubs in other countries have strong political connections but we don't really have that here. Even as somebody who takes a keen interest in politics and has a lot of strong views I'm glad that it's not really a factor in English football - I hope it stays that way too. Yes, I think it's mainly due to the absence of the whole 'ultras' thing in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Agree with Isa, Villa seems to draw a lot more fans from more 'comfortable' surrounding counties (Warwickshire, Worcestershire, etc) as well as Sutton Coldfield while Small Heath is more associated with inner city Birmingham. Not sure how true that is in practice but the perception is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 If our fans are, generally, from higher class stock than small heath that doesn't necessarily make us middle class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT Supporter mjmooney Posted March 18, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted March 18, 2015 I would say that - unlike most European countries (and the U.S.???), the majority of British people are politically apathetic, hence its irrelevance in football terms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arj Guy Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Small heath - scum class Beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT Supporter Popular Post Marka Ragnos Posted March 18, 2015 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2015 Upper class? Middle class? Lower class? Who knows? All I knows is that when I see classy, I know it: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I'm not sure there's much of a political angle to football in the UK. Celtic and Rangers apart. Millwall / West Ham also has a political angle with the strike breakers but that's really searching for stuff. This apolitical attitude is a good thing. I suppose back in the bad old days NF type groups tried to recruit at football by promising people some exciting running and chasing games. But generally the football is the be all and end all and not a vehicle for other stuff. There are also niche groups like Dulwich Hamlet, but that's very much a tiny tinydrop in the ocean. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT Supporter Marka Ragnos Posted March 18, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted March 18, 2015 I think Villa have do some street cred, man. Can't let the Noses have the market cornered on that, I hope. Did you see those maniacal pitch invaders? They wore the facial expressions of real old timey West Mercian warriors. All they needed were some bronze battle axes and a touch of syphilis to go round. Dark ages, dudes. I know this because the London media said so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Chelsea, Rangers & Linfield supporters have some kind of fraternal relationship based on Loyalism/Brit Nationalism I believe. A great bunch of lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Chelsea, Rangers & Linfield supporters have some kind of fraternal relationship based on Loyalism/Brit Nationalism I believe. A great bunch of lads. Their opposites are no better either to be fair. Both sides get on my nerves - keep that sectarian shit out of football. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Chelsea, Rangers & Linfield supporters have some kind of fraternal relationship based on Loyalism/Brit Nationalism I believe. A great bunch of lads. Their opposites are no better either to be fair. Both sides get on my nerves - keep that sectarian shit out of football. I don't believe the mentioned clubs alliance is purely sectarian in its nature, they're Loyal in a general sense dontcha know. My own experience being in a football ground with Linfield supporters was generally positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Chelsea, Rangers & Linfield supporters have some kind of fraternal relationship based on Loyalism/Brit Nationalism I believe. A great bunch of lads. Their opposites are no better either to be fair. Both sides get on my nerves - keep that sectarian shit out of football. Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT Supporter Marka Ragnos Posted March 18, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) I've heard things and read things about how some clubs are rightly or wrongly affiliated or associated with a variety of labels. For instance, I've heard that the following clubs are considered "middle class": ... Are there other English clubs that you associate with class, religion or politics? Class and football is a fascinating subject, but the only recent class development in football in Britain that matters is the triple-engined effect of Hillsborough, the establishment of the Premier League, and the backlash against "hooliganism" of the 80s. There are no "working class" Premier clubs. That's a laugh. Football has been embraced and entirely tamed by Britain's middle-class. But then again, so has all of English society. Whereas people like my dad used to boast about the metal shavings they'd get stuck in his hands every day at the lathe in industrial Brum, a lot of English men today would rather tell you how to make a nice rissoto. And guess what?: that's a good thing. The "owd days," from what I can tell, weren't always so wonderful. The real affiliations are now bought and sold on the open market. Wonga. Need I say more? Edited March 18, 2015 by Plastic Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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