mjmooney Posted January 22, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Shropshire Lad said: Yep, Midlands is Midlands but between the two, we’re probably closer to the North in spirit. Didn’t we have a similar conversation recently about where the North began? Just above Stoke I’d guess. Years ago I was drinking in Chesterfield on a Monday night - yes it was as good as it sounds - and I remember thinking at the time it felt reasonably northern. Oh, Chesterfield is definitely northern. How about Nottingham? Midlands, I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 22, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 minute ago, mjmooney said: Oh, Chesterfield is definitely northern. How about Nottingham? Midlands, I'd say. Yep definitely Midlands. Mansfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted January 22, 2019 Moderator Share Posted January 22, 2019 I reckon, at least on the west side, the portal is at Crewe. That's where, either by train or car the border seems to lie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 22, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2019 20 minutes ago, Shropshire Lad said: Yep definitely Midlands. Mansfield? I was wondering about Mansfield. Could go either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 It's the M4. South of the M4 is south. North of the M4 is north. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted January 22, 2019 Moderator Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Shropshire Lad said: Mansfield? Depends if they have gravy on their chips. If yes = North 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Xela Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 5 hours ago, mjmooney said: I've always felt the opposite. Midlands is Midlands, neither north nor south, but if it has to be a two-way split, I always considered that we had far more in common with the north than the south. Same. I deal with businesses from all over the UK and the Midlands are more comparable with the North than the South. I much prefer dealing with clients in Manchester or Liverpool or Cumbria then anything in London or the South East. I've said it on here before but the very worst people in this country come from Kent and Essex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 22, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2019 Is that map claiming that Leeds and York are not north? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Shropshire Lad said: Didn’t we have a similar conversation recently about where the North began? Just above Stoke I’d guess. Years ago I was drinking in Chesterfield on a Monday night - yes it was as good as it sounds - and I remember thinking at the time it felt reasonably northern. Stoke is Staffs so I say Midlands, but just north into Cheshire then definitely North. Chesterfield... very northern Derbyshire so i'd say it squeezes into the Midlands but 2 miles north and into Sheffield, then obviously North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 22, 2019 Moderator Share Posted January 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Is that map claiming that Leeds and York are not north? Yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Chesterfield and Mansfield are both North for me, no question. Everything north of Stoke is North, with the possible exception of the posho's in Lincoln. That map is genius; takes a brave man to assert that Leeds is South and Harrogate is North! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 22, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2019 So how far to east does the Midlands reach before it becomes East Anglia then? Somewhere between Kettering and Peterborough? Also, that Radio 4 North/South map while obviously a joke annoys me as I’m fairly certain I fall right on the boundary line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Shropshire Lad said: So how far to east does the Midlands reach before it becomes East Anglia then? Somewhere between Kettering and Peterborough? Also, that Radio 4 North/South map while obviously a joke annoys me as I’m fairly certain I fall right on the boundary line. East of the A1? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 22, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: East of the A1? Is that how it’s more or less considered? Looks about right in fairness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Shropshire Lad said: Is that how it’s more or less considered? Looks about right in fairness. My entirely scientific rationale is that you don't have to go far east of the A1 to find comedic place names that were incidentally mentioned in 'I'm Alan Partridge'. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 22, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: My entirely scientific rationale is that you don't have to go far east of the A1 to find comedic place names that were incidentally mentioned in 'I'm Alan Partridge'. Haha good rule of thumb. Off topic but I remember seeing an interview with Steve Coogan and he was simply asked “Why Norwich?”. I think he basically said it’s not north or south, it’s not really on the way to anywhere apart Great Yarmouth. It’s kind of isolated in its own way and forgotten about which suited Partridge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 North or South of the Watford Gap is what I've always gone on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 23, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: North or South of the Watford Gap is what I've always gone on That's not a bad cut off. Personally I'd go with the previously mentioned cut off of about Stoke. I consider Birmingham, Leamington, Coventry etc to be in the south. But I definitely consider Manchester, Leeds, Liverpool etc to be in the north. Stoke can toss a coin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 23, 2019 Moderator Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 hours ago, lapal_fan said: North or South of the Watford Gap is what I've always gone on Not quite that simple, Watford Gap is like the pivot but these are the usual boundaries of North and South as used by Human Geographers. In my day learning this crap it was the Severn / Trent Line but there are a couple of others too Realistically its the Severn Wash line that's the most sensible imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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