Stevo985 Posted December 18, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Yeah, I think that's what it is. The part I'm struggling with is the seeming implication that heading directly west leads to Cuba? Probably to do with curvature of the earth and that it's not quite directly west. More of a downard angle. I'd say the USA sliver is directly west, which makes more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 18, 2018 Moderator Share Posted December 18, 2018 10 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Probably to do with curvature of the earth and that it's not quite directly west. More of a downard angle. I'd say the USA sliver is directly west, which makes more sense. Also depends how they determined travelling from Ireland in a straight line. I suspect they put a pin in the geographical centre of Ireland which would give some false readings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post BOF Posted January 8, 2019 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2019 A 1595 map of Europe. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stevo985 Posted January 9, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 9, 2019 19 hours ago, BOF said: A 1595 map of Europe. The mythical island of "Brasil" (I think spelling varies) off the coast of Ireland is quite a fascinating thing. Appears on loads and loads of maps. you can see it there under the A in "EUROPAE" A load of expeditions were sent to find it but it's (obviously) never existed. I always thought it was because someone told them "brazil" was in that direction But apparently it has no connection to Brazil at all. The name is a coincidence 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chindie Posted January 9, 2019 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: The mythical island of "Brasil" (I think spelling varies) off the coast of Ireland is quite a fascinating thing. Appears on loads and loads of maps. you can see it there under the A in "EUROPAE" A load of expeditions were sent to find it but it's (obviously) never existed. I always thought it was because someone told them "brazil" was in that direction But apparently it has no connection to Brazil at all. The name is a coincidence Hy-Brasil it's also been known as. I got fascinated by a load of this stuff years ago, from what I remember the main theory seems to be that the name came from an ancient Irish clan name with the suggestion that they came from this place to Ireland or something like that. Cantre'r Gwaelod is a similar story you see in Welsh mythology. Supposedly Cardigan Bay used to be a hugely fertile land with towns and farms all over it, and then it suddenly was submerged. It's also known as the Welsh Atlantis. Unlike Hy-Brasil there's some 'evidence' it might have existed (it probably didn't). There's various 'causeways' that lead out to sea across the coast of the bay, which look bizarre, these sudden raised areas of shingle that look a little like Roman roads, and there are submerged tree stumps found on the beach at Borth and Ynyslas on the coast (which look bizarre when you're walking along a beach and suddenly in the surf you've got the remains of a tree in the sand). And a few miles off the coast there are huge raised banks that come out of nowhere and run along the bay. And iirc there are ancient maps that show Wales being very differently shaped. There's similar stories in Cornish mythology. Presumably it's all the legend building up around an actual story of minor land loss through sea levels rising. I still find all this fascinating though. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bickster Posted January 22, 2019 Moderator Share Posted January 22, 2019 North Londoners Stereotypes of the Rest of the UK 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 That made me snort out loud. San Francisco. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 22, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2019 34 minutes ago, bickster said: North Londoners Stereotypes of the Rest of the UK This reminds me of a friend of mine who insists that 'the South' in the UK is literally London and Kent, and everything else is the North. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 22, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Chindie said: This reminds me of a friend of mine who insists that 'the South' in the UK is literally London and Kent, and everything else is the North. I've said this before on here, but in our halls at uni we did some sort of drinking game where we all split into teams of North and South. I was stunned when people insisted that I was put into the "north" team. I'd never really thought about it but my assumption was that Midlands still counted as South. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 22, 2019 Moderator Share Posted January 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, Seat68 said: That made me snort out loud. San Francisco. Yeah it's the eh?... Oh yes... haha that makes it funny when you realise where it is and their respective reputations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 29 minutes ago, bickster said: Yeah it's the eh?... Oh yes... haha that makes it funny when you realise where it is and their respective reputations it was more the matter of factness, imagined in a cockney accent. San Francisco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mjmooney Posted January 22, 2019 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: I've said this before on here, but in our halls at uni we did some sort of drinking game where we all split into teams of North and South. I was stunned when people insisted that I was put into the "north" team. I'd never really thought about it but my assumption was that Midlands still counted as South. I've always felt the opposite. Midlands is Midlands, neither north nor south, but if it has to be a two-way split, I always considered that we had far more in common with the north than the south. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 22 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Midlands is Midlands, neither north nor south Not a complicated concept. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 22, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, mjmooney said: I've always felt the opposite. Midlands is Midlands, neither north nor south, but if it has to be a two-way split, I always considered that we had far more in common with the north than the south. Well I was going purely on location of Birmingham, which I guess I considered to be the south of the country. Or at least, when someone talks about "the north", I never once assumed that included me. Wasn't really about who we had the most in common with (I agree with you on that fwiw) And yeah Midlands is Midlands, but when you're splitting by North and South it requires you to fall into either category Edited January 22, 2019 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 22, 2019 Moderator Share Posted January 22, 2019 The North / South divide is traditionally the Severn Trent line isn't it? In which case Brum is North I do think its bollocks though, Midlands is Midlands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: And yeah Midlands is Midlands, but when you're splitting by North and South it requires you to fall into either category We're the fulcrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 22, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2019 Yep, Midlands is Midlands but between the two, we’re probably closer to the North in spirit. Didn’t we have a similar conversation recently about where the North began? Just above Stoke I’d guess. Years ago I was drinking in Chesterfield on a Monday night - yes it was as good as it sounds - and I remember thinking at the time it felt reasonably northern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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