Isa Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Precisely why he should've been sacked before the international break.The club have bought this negativity on themselves. Given our efficiency during the Lerner era of keeping our affairs in-house (one of the few positive things you can about it), I'm surprised that Sherwood is still here. I thought the leaks would have sped up his exit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djdabush Posted October 20, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2015 Interesting that pretty much no one came out to defend Advocaat when he was under pressure at Sunderland, despite the fact he arguably did an even better job than Sherwood last season. The fact that loads of people he has worked with in the past are suddenly Villa aficionados who know all the ins and outs of the club speaks volumes. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Might not make it to Saturday at this rate - theres a real shit storm brewing. If only we had decisive directors. I really don't see what this dithering is achieving.JUST GET IT DONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Interesting that pretty much no one came out to defend Advocaat when he was under pressure at Sunderland, despite the fact he arguably did an even better job than Sherwood last season. The fact that loads of people he has worked with in the past are suddenly Villa aficionados who know all the ins and outs of the club speaks volumes.Yes good point. Tim and his press sidekicks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) Jenas depicts TS as a bully who undermines others, and not somebody you want managing and building a young team. They need to get rid ASAP, project Sherwood has run its course. I think you need to study Alex Fergusons Career, you call it bullying, I call it decisive action to let a player know, that he is playing shite.....sometimes being direct is what folk want. I personally think our football club has been subject to years of indecision and pussyfooting with players, a bit of "hometruth" doesn't hurt anyone and focuses the mind. right now, i think he has a bunch who are just not good enough on their displays to date......most of our problems are individual errors......far too many of them. Edited October 20, 2015 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Interesting that pretty much no one came out to defend Advocaat when he was under pressure at Sunderland, despite the fact he arguably did an even better job than Sherwood last season. The fact that loads of people he has worked with in the past are suddenly Villa aficionados who know all the ins and outs of the club speaks volumes.Very good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Isa Posted October 20, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2015 The truth is Sherwood could not convince Cleverley, Delph and Benteke to stay. Yes, a much overlooked point - or Vlaar Come on guys, that's a pretty shoddy stick to beat him with. Cleverley always had his heart set on a move to Everton and a reunion with Martinez. Our original bid to sign him was scuppered on that basis. Benteke and Delph had release clauses and joined bigger clubs which is the natural process. Vlaar was a crock anyway and he's been replaced with Richards who has done well so far. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Advocaat actually resigned at Sunderland I don't think they intended to sack him. I was surprised to see quite a few of the fans on 'readytogo' seemed sorry to see him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Interesting that pretty much no one came out to defend Advocaat when he was under pressure at Sunderland, despite the fact he arguably did an even better job than Sherwood last season. The fact that loads of people he has worked with in the past are suddenly Villa aficionados who know all the ins and outs of the club speaks volumes. which means exactly what? are you suggesting brown paper envelopes or that TS's popularity amongst his peers is also working against him in some quarters of B6 The conspiracy theory strikes again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted October 20, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) The truth is Sherwood could not convince Cleverley, Delph and Benteke to stay. What could he have convinced them with exactly? Delph has gone to a club in the Champions league almost certain to finish top 2 this season, Benteke went to a team looking to compete for a Champions league place and Cleverley went to play for a manager he had before, for a club closer to his home and a club that will be competing for a top 7 finish. Vlaar I think got ideas above his station.Lets just say Benteke and Delph had stayed how much do people think we would have spent? Our net spend was around 7 million so do you think Sherwood could have convinced Delph and Benteke not to go to clubs with much greater ambitions by saying 'if you stay lads I have 10 mill to spend and am going to rebuild a team that finished 17th, you'd be a fool not to hang around'I don't care who the manager is you are not going to convince good players to stay with the lack of ambition from the owner. Barry, Milner, Young and Downing all left before the rot had set in but now it well and truly has not even Mourinho with Guardiola as his assistant could convince any player with any ambition to stay when courted by clubs with more ambition. Edited October 20, 2015 by markavfc40 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ermie123 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Jermaine Jenus yes i can remember him setting the the world on fire with his incredible football talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Jermaine Jenus yes i can remember him setting the the world on fire with his incredible football talent.Are you only allowed to comment on Sherwood if you've been a very successful professional footballer, then? We're all screwed!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 User Actions Follow Andy_avfc@Andy__avfc Does this ring any bells??????? The man has form. Doing exactly the same here. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/11/tim-sherwood-tottenham-transfer-dealings … #avfc hmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Anyone and everyone is fault but Tim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 The club is a shambles from top to bottom, it has got to the point now where I can barely be arsed to look for our results on a weekend let alone watch an actual game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) User Actions Follow Andy_avfc@Andy__avfc Does this ring any bells??????? The man has form. Doing exactly the same here. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/11/tim-sherwood-tottenham-transfer-dealings … #avfc hmmmmmm but its been pretty well known that the summer transfers of that year were awful (avb+sherwood+poch all disliked quite a few of them transfers). Dont hate on someone for saying something that is correct. Your posts are usually is legit, this point is not. Edited October 20, 2015 by gharperr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 What?I'm not hating on anybody.Merely pointing out that Sherwood has history in calling out summer transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 For a guy who we thought may have had the potential to be a progressive thinking manager he seems to be the complete opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Slightly concerned that the board, apparently putting a DoF hierarchy in place, thought it a good idea to appoint someone who has previously spoken out about that setup and wanting players with Premier League experience. Hrmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Anyone and everyone is fault but Tim.There is a happy medium to be struck though isn't there and I think on here at least I haven't seen anyone back Sherwood and defend him to the hilt. Not even close. A few ex pro's have got way closer to that than any Aston Villa has.It works both ways though doesn't it. Not everything is Sherwoods fault. It makes hard reading on here though when I read crap like Guzans a spent force and is making mistakes due to Sherwood messing with his head when the reality is Guzans form had been suspect long before Sherwood arrived and his kicking had always been crap. Likewise now people stating that Sherwood should have been able to convince Delph, Benteke and Cleverley to stay. And then you have the over the top reactions post match to picking certain players such as Richardson on Saturday when the reality is Amavi had been away with the France under 21's and had been suspect defensively in recent games and Richardson actually played well. I could go on and on.Sherwood has done a lot wrong and there are plenty of sticks to beat him with it does not require him to be lambasted for things that when looked at logically he should not be criticized for. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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