theboyangel Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 He'll be gone with the wind, before he has a chance to build a squad. He'll only be gone if we get taken over. Not going to happen anytime soon IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Made a few mistakes today but fair play for telling it how it is - there really is a losing mentality at Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Does he say, "You've got to take your medicine at 3-0."? It's not chipping out from the rough on a par 5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Made a few mistakes today but fair play for telling it how it is - there really is a losing mentality at Villa. But how will that change withough serious investment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Made a few mistakes today but fair play for telling it how it is - there really is a losing mentality at Villa. But how will that change withough serious investment? It won't - I'm just saying that I'm glad he didn't mince his words. You're right in that very little will change without serious investment which in itself is incredibly unlikely under Lerner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) He'll be gone with the wind, before he has a chance to build a squad. He'll only be gone if we get taken over. Not going to happen anytime soon IMO I think he'll be out the door if we get taken over. And if we don't get taken over he'll struggle to build a new squad with what money he'll get from Lerner. Even if we sell Benteke for £32M that's not much to revamp a whole team. Edited May 30, 2015 by useless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I think new owners would give him at least till January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJT123 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Can you imagine the conversation with Lerner when Tim finds out that he only gets £10m or so from the Benteke sale to reinvest? I also agree I can't see him being around here for a while under the current clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Made a few mistakes today but fair play for telling it how it is - there really is a losing mentality at Villa. But how will that change withough serious investment? It won't - I'm just saying that I'm glad he didn't mince his words. You're right in that very little will change without serious investment which in itself is incredibly unlikely under Lerner. Nah, we were absolute garbage today. I thought we would lose (I think I put elsewhere that I'd rather have us playing any other team than Arsenal) but this was terrible. Not about a lack of investment. We played really well against Liverpool in the semi final but were nothing like today - it was terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheAuthority Posted May 30, 2015 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2015 For what it's worth I ran into Sherwood leaving Club Wembley with his family about and hour and a half after the end. I took a photo with him and he was absolutely devastated. I asked him if he'd be with us next season and he said yes. I told him that if I saw Randy I would tell him to spend some money, and he replied "Oh, he's going to spend some money you'll see," He was wife his wife and kids and was genuinely gutted, almost speechless. Make of all that whatever you will. That was the end of my $5000 weekend trip from NYC. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 That's for the info TA, I hope he's right! We need Randy to spend for us to end this ridiculous cycle of battling relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) That was the end of my $5000 weekend trip from NYC. 5k$ to not see a shot on target. lols. i feel for you! And theres people in match thread calling fans "over the top" and "pathetic" for being annoyed about today. Edited May 30, 2015 by gharperr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Martin O'Neil mk2 Well have some good days but were going to have some really frustrating days along the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismail-villa Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Can we quickly hire Lambert for the transfer window then revert to Sherwood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I've been critical of Sherwood (and quite rightly I believe) but I'll give him a full season to prove himself. I do believe I am correct to criticise though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post P3te Posted May 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2015 We were cooked before Sherwood saved us, and make no mistake, that's precisely what he did. Looking back, he managed a pretty much impossible task, and managed it, ultimately, with a couple of games to spare. That was unthinkable the day after the Hull game. Once we were safe, I think the pressure of the season just took its toll on the players. Tim didn't get the management right for the last couple of games and we lost our momentum. I'm sure it's a tough thing to get players giving 100% knowing that a red card or an injury would have them missing the FA Cup final, but hopefully he's learned from that. Beating Arsenal was always going to be difficult. Whatever way you cut it, they're far, far better than us in every single department right now. We needed the game of our lives, and for them not to turn up. That was always a shot in the dark though. There won't be too many people surprised with the result, but we've got every right to be disappointed and angry about the performance. That was the biggest game of most of those players lives and they never showed up. Some of that has got to be down to the manager. But like the players, the manager is new to this, too. I'm certainly not changing my opinion that he's done a ludicrously tough job with more style than we could ever have imagined just because the players took their holidays early and then forgot to come back for the FA Cup. The remit was to keep us up, that was mission accomplished. Beating Liverpool in that semi final might just have pushed us over the line in the league, so the cup run was definitely worth it IMO. The season is over, we stayed up and we lost in a cup final. There's not a single one of us on here that wouldn't have taken that in a second after the Hull game. I've got no time for people throwing their toys out of the pram with Sherwood, and tarnishing his contribution or saying he was "found out" because of the last few games. Let's see how he gets on in the transfer market first. Let's see how he rebuilds the squad. Let's see who he gets rid of. Let's see who he can keep hold of. Let's give him a chance to actually give it a go. He deserves it, because he did the impossible this season. I just find it ironic that some the most negative folks on here, the ones saying we were definitely down and couldn't be saved and this, that and the other, are the ones complaining the loudest at the end of the season when we stayed up. Losing 4-0 in a cup final isn't good enough, nobody is saying it is, but it was s side show to this season. The real stuff starts when the buying and selling kicks off and the players return in July. It doesn't matter who the owner is or isn't, we can only spend what we make - our losses in the past are such that Bill Gates couldn't invest any more than Randy will. If you can't accept that, modern football isn't for you. Unless there are major FFP changes, the only thing a new owner can do is increase club income, or decrease club spending, to give the manager more money. There's no alternative, no workaround, no loophole, no legal challenges. It was voted in by a majority, and it's not changing any time soon. So, shut the **** up, stop moaning about everything, realise that the current football climate is doing its best to keep clubs outside the established big name group down, and support the goddamned team, manager and whoever else. The poisonous shite on here is ludicrous. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Sherwood did well to keep us up as did Lambert before him. But this idea that he performed some sort of miracle in doing so, is over played in my opinion, we were only in the drop zone on goal difference when he arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) And I'm willing to bet that if we somehow got taken over by the Man City owners with or without FFP we'd be signing a far better class of player than we would in a scenario where Lerner stays as the owner. Money talks. Edited May 31, 2015 by useless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Made a few mistakes today but fair play for telling it how it is - there really is a losing mentality at Villa. But how will that change withough serious investment? If he's a good manager, then you don't need "serious investment" the majority of clubs don't spend a massive amount of money (outside the top 6), even Spurs, didn't they make a net profit last summer? You have to buy well to sell on, to buy more to sell on, etc. Unfortunately that's how football is these days with FFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Sherwood did well to keep us up as did Lambert before him. But this idea that he performed some sort of miracle in doing so, is over played in my opinion, we were only in the drop zone on goal difference when he arrived. Just ignore the fact we had scored about 1 goal in the previous 10 league games and were truly woeful going forward after that Hull game as we had been all season. Sherwood performed a **** miracle to keep us up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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