Czechlad Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 We signed him for £3.2 million, so surely we can get that for him? That seems like such a low fee even for Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Spanish clubs wouldnt have that money lying about unless big 3, Valencia, Sevilla, Villarreal and he is not good enough for them teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 6 hours ago, Eastie said: Get rid - preferably permanently but a loan deal better than no deal - don't see him figuring for us again. 6 hours ago, villa89 said: We can't force a team to sign him. He's worth what someone is willing to spend so if it's only a loan then that's better than nothing. He has no future here. I'm sure he does not see himself playing for us again either but he seems to want it all his own way and I think we need to play a little hard ball now. He will run down his contract and we will end up getting nothing for him if we agree to another loan deal. If the loan club are paying all of his wages rather than say 50% or less there is something in it for us as there may be if Betis offer money for the player now. But Bruce may want to look at the player in pre-season if another loan or a small fee are the only available options before making a decision on what is still our player's future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KSV Posted June 19, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2017 Real Betis close to agreeing a fee apparently. Sad to see him go.. would have preferred to see him play under an actual manager.. and not just Tim Sherwood. It is what it is.. Good luck to Carles. If anything.. he was a good professional and seems like a nice guy. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 If some other club pay for him, then fine, but otherwise he should be reporting back for training as he is contracted to do. A loan with no possibility of a fee is just a waste of time though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 17 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: If some other club pay for him, then fine, but otherwise he should be reporting back for training as he is contracted to do. A loan with no possibility of a fee is just a waste of time though. I agree.. and i have no doubt if a fee couldnt be agreed that he would come and play.. and play his best. Spanish press seem to think the fee will be agreed soon as it is close. Maybe they have offered 2 million.. it does appear he will be a Betis player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post briny_ear Posted June 20, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2017 Never known such a fuss over such a mediocre player. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 5 hours ago, briny_ear said: Never known such a fuss over such a mediocre player. pretty much this. He would be eaten alive in the Championship 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 A none entity and yet another example of the flawed recruitment that has us in the Championship while Huddersfield, Bournemouth, and others are thriving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 9 hours ago, briny_ear said: Never known such a fuss over such a mediocre player. Maybe your not good at spotting talent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 4 hours ago, terrytini said: A none entity and yet another example of the flawed recruitment that has us in the Championship while Huddersfield, Bournemouth, and others are thriving. This is just utter bollocks. The season that Bournemouth were promoted, they signed Dan Gosling, Andrew Surman, Junior Stanislas and Callum Wilson (along with Kenwyne Jones on loan). Imagine if we signed rejected Premier League players on free transfers and last seasons League One top scorer. Our fans wouldn't be praising our brilliant recruitment at all Even ignoring the tight financial constrictions we were under at the time of signing Gil, I'm all in favour of scouting Spain and purchasing players for £3m. Sometimes it doesn't work out. (Personally, always thought he was a decent player). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Our recruitment has been awful. If you don't think so, well whoopy do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 And whether you realise or not, we ARE in the Championship and Huddersfield and Bournemouth ARE thriving. They bought well. We didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 13 hours ago, KSV said: Real Betis close to agreeing a fee apparently. Sad to see him go.. would have preferred to see him play under an actual manager.. and not just Tim Sherwood. It is what it is.. Good luck to Carles. If anything.. he was a good professional and seems like a nice guy. Yes, I often think a good professional and a nice guy is someone who gets his agent to publicly state he had no interest in playing for a team just weeks after relegation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 So I've no idea which bit is, to use your cultured expression, bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Just now, terrytini said: Our recruitment has been awful. If you don't think so, well whoopy do. I don't disagree - players haven't worked out for us. You brought up Bournemouth, just imagine us signing those players this season. There'd honestly be uproar on here and "Bruce out" all over the place (even more than usual!). Gil at £3m isn't a big risk and he isn't a bad player. As I say, it just hasn't worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 minute ago, terrytini said: So I've no idea which bit is, to use your cultured expression, bollocks. That Gil represents our flawed recruitment. He doesn't. He was a cheap gamble. Amavi for £9m, Veretout for £7m, Gestede for £7m, McCormack for £13m. There are your flawed recruitment choices (FWIW, I like Veretout as a player). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Just now, bobzy said: I don't disagree - players haven't worked out for us. You brought up Bournemouth, just imagine us signing those players this season. There'd honestly be uproar on here and "Bruce out" all over the place (even more than usual!). Gil at £3m isn't a big risk and he isn't a bad player. As I say, it just hasn't worked out. So which bit was bollocks ? Just because some people would moan if we bought XY or Z doesn't mean our recruitment was good, or theirs bad ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Yes, I often think a good professional and a nice guy is someone who gets his agent to publicly state he had no interest in playing for a team just weeks after relegation. Would've been better if he got pissed abroad, photographed in the street and then failed to perform in the coming season instead, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Just now, bobzy said: That Gil represents our flawed recruitment. He doesn't. He was a cheap gamble. Amavi for £9m, Veretout for £7m, Gestede for £7m, McCormack for £13m. There are your flawed recruitment choices (FWIW, I like Veretout as a player). Right at least I know know which bit you meant. So basically because YOU think he was ok my view is bollocks ? Riiigghht.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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