The ISIS threat to Europe

[Chindie]

Parsons Green incident being treated as terrorism.

Appears to be a fairly good example of why the recent trend has been to switch to vehicles and knives. It's hard to **** up causing mayhem with them no matter how incompetent you are. Making your own bomb though? These people aren't geniuses, and they often **** up, get caught before the plot comes together, the device fails... Etc etc. This appears to have mostly caused injury from the panic.

[TheAuthority]

On 8/20/2017 at 16:02, chrisp65 said:

If that madman is simply a fat uneducated virgin with an ISIS or swastika flag, follow him around playing comedy tuba music, or crack his teeth. Depending on your skill set.

I'm much better on the euphonium than the tuba though - will that do?

[chrisp65]

25 minutes ago, TheAuthority said:

I'm much better on the euphonium than the tuba though - will that do?

it's fine for now, but in about 18 months any instrument beginning with an EU will need to be left at the border

[peterms]

42 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

it's fine for now, but in about 18 months any instrument beginning with an EU will need to be left at the border

Not only instruments.  I have it on good authority that abstract concepts will also have to be surrendered.  Euphoria, euphemism, all that sort of thing. 

[sne]

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Bomb found near Paris St Germain football ground: Islamist who was supposedly under surveillance is among five people arrested after gas cylinder explosives are discovered

• 'Home made bomb' found in Paris early hours of Saturday before PSG game
• The four gas cylinders covered in petrol linked to a mobile phone detonator 
• The explosive device was foiund by a member of the public at 4.30am 
• Five were arrested, including radical Islamist who was under surveillance
• Some 50,000 people attended Paris Saint-Germain game later on Saturday

By Peter Allen In Paris for MailOnline

PUBLISHED: 10:15 BST, 3 October 2017 | UPDATED: 11:15 BST, 3 October 2017

 

An Islamist terrorist bomb plot was foiled in Paris on Saturday after an improvised explosive device was found near Paris Saint-Germain football club.

The device, consisting of four gas cylinders covered in petrol were found in the upmarket 16th arrondissement near the Parc des Princes stadium, just hours before PSG were playing a league game.

Five men have been arrested, including a known Islamist extremist who was meant to be under surveillance.

Foiled plot: The device, consisting of four gas cylinders covered in petrol were found near the Parc des Princes stadium, just hours before 50,000 arrived to watch PSG play Bordeaux

The four gas cylinders were linked to a ‘mobile phone that could ignite the cylinders so causing an explosion’, said an investigating source in the French capital.

Close to 50,000 people arrived at the stadium later on Saturday for the league champions tie against Bordeaux.

They included the most expensive multi-millionaire footballers in the world, including the Brazilian Neymar da Silva Santos and France international Kylian Mbappe.

‘The device was soaked in petrol and operational,’ said the source. ‘It was found when a local resident of the building in Rue Chanez called the police shortly before 4.30am on Saturday.

‘Five suspects were arrested at the scene, including a known radical with links to Islamist movements.’

Blissfully unaware: Brazilian Neymar da Silva Santos and France international Kylian Mbappe, pictured with Edinson Cavani, played in the game hours after the bomb was found

Today French Interior Minister Gerard Collomb suggested that the man may have slipped the agents tailing him by using ‘a friend’.

Mr Collomb said the suspect was on the ‘FSPRT file’, which denotes someone who has been radicalized to the extent that they display signs of a ‘terrorist character’.

It is common for those under surveillance to employ someone who looks like them to briefly escape agents watching them.

‘When you watch someone, there is always a nebula, a friend ready to help the one who is on the file,’ Mr Collomb told France Inter radio station.

A ‘nebula’ is a cloud of gas and dust in outer space that is normally only visible as an indistinct patch of light or dark silhouette.

All of those arrested on Saturday remain in custody, but none have yet been formally identified. The bomb was diffused by experts at the scene following an evactuation.

Details of the operation were not released until today as anti-terrorist police carried out raids in the Paris suburbs linked to it.

Islamic State has targeted Paris stadiums in the past, including in November 2015 when three suicide bombers hit the Stade de France before a friendly between France and Germany.

Two of the men blew themselves up with the loss of one innocent man, while a third bomber ran away, dumping his explosives later on.

He turned out to be Salah Abdeslam, a French Isis terrorist who is now in a high security prison close to Paris awaiting trial.

Mr Collomb said that the building where the bomb was found could have been the main target, but no theory was yet being ruled out.

‘Blowing up a building in a chic neighbourhood shows that no one is safe,’ said Mr Collomb. ‘It shows that it could happen anywhere in France.’

France remains under a state of emergency following a series of bomb, shooting and stabbing atrocities carried out by Isis operatives.

On Sunday a suspected Jihadi was shot dead in the southern port city of Marseille after murdering two young cousins with a knife next to a city station.

Despite such bloodbaths, Mr Collomb said that 12 planned terrorist outrages had been foiled across France since the beginning of the year.

 

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[snowychap]

11 minutes ago, sne said:

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‘When you watch someone, there is always a nebula, a friend ready to help the one who is on the file,’ Mr Collomb told France Inter radio station.

A ‘nebula’ is a cloud of gas and dust in outer space that is normally only visible as an indistinct patch of light or dark silhouette.

The Mail - helpful as ever.

 

[Xann]

Raqqa has fallen.

In more ways than one looking at the aerial photos.

[chrisp65]

[OutByEaster?]

Who dat?

 

[coda]

7 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:

Who dat?

 

John McClane.

[OutByEaster?]

23 minutes ago, coda said:

John McClane.

I recognised those bits - it's the bit at the front I'm not sure about.

 

[AvfcRigo82]

1 hour ago, chrisp65 said:

"Everyone get the **** out or take cover" 

That does not look like he is in Selfridges though Crisp!

[AvfcRigo82]

35 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:

Who dat?

 

Looks like Olly Murs!?

[chrisp65]

35 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:

Who dat?

funny side of what could have been serious, be it a genuine case of someone getting spooked or a deliberate hoax, we had parts of the underground and Regent Street evacuated due to, as it later turns out, nothing in particular

with the police advising everyone to get inside buildings and stay there, Olly Murs had a bit of a panic attack on twitter

 

to be fair, police turned up fast and established it was nothing pretty fast

a good work out for their plans, tv news 'impressed' with how fast police were in control, but to be honest, it's central London on black Friday, so I expect they were parked up in vans 100 metres away eating doughnuts all day

an hour's trade lost on a big shopping day, people so worried for their lives they hardly had time to tweet straight

Olly is now safe.

 

[OutByEaster?]

I am proud not to have recognised Olly Murs. 

[leemond2008]

11 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:

I am proud not to have recognised Olly Murs. 

I thought it was Gary Barlow at first

[Dr_Pangloss]

What a **** douchbag 

[Xela]

If I thought there was a gunman shooting in the shop I was in, I wouldn't be thinking that I needed to update my twitter feed first!

[HanoiVillan]

12 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said:

What a **** douchbag 

 

12 hours ago, Xela said:

If I thought there was a gunman shooting in the shop I was in, I wouldn't be thinking that I needed to update my twitter feed first!

I think this is being more than a bit uncharitable. He was caught up in what seemed to be a terror attack (lots of people thought it was, not just Olly Murs) and then followed the Met Police guidelines of 'run-hide-tell' to the letter. Using his Twitter account to warn people away from an area where he thought an attack was ongoing is perfectly reasonable behaviour. He didn't update his Twitter feed 'first', he found a safe place to hide. 

[chrisp65]

6 hours ago, HanoiVillan said:

 

I think this is being more than a bit uncharitable. He was caught up in what seemed to be a terror attack (lots of people thought it was, not just Olly Murs) and then followed the Met Police guidelines of 'run-hide-tell' to the letter. Using his Twitter account to warn people away from an area where he thought an attack was ongoing is perfectly reasonable behaviour. He didn't update his Twitter feed 'first', he found a safe place to hide. 

It's Olly Murs pissing his pants for what later turned out to be nothing, so, with the benefit of the hindsight he didn't have, his role here as minor celebrity panic tweeting is to be ridiculed.

 

On a serious note, at the time, the police were telling people to get off the street and get in to buildings, Murs was telling them to get out of the building and on to the street, so potentially he could have been saving lives or sending people to the trouble.

 

My personal code, in a time of obvious panic and confusion, would be to stay off social media and try and be of benefit to the people immediately around me. Not tweet that I've shat myself.