bickster Posted August 17, 2017 Moderator Share Posted August 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: Las Ramblas gets packed in the summer, it's easy to see how one van could kill loads of people, as well as the resultant panic. You'd only have to drive through a red light at Plaça de Catalunya when people are crossing the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Some horrible pictures and videos on Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: Is this confirmed isis yet? There has been an awful lot of anti tourism trouble/feeling in Barcelona (& other areas of spain) recently and was likely to turn violent at some point I am pretty sure his is terrorism. Those anti-tourist people will be begging for tourists now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Keyblade said: Some horrible pictures and videos on Twitter Yeah just seen one, bloke just walking down the street filming the dead, people running past him screaming, crying, people running past him to try and help those injured and he just keeps filming word removed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, villa4europe said: word removed Agreed, surley the 1`st instinct is to help rather than film ? One could say its almost aiding and abeting acts of terror in the broadcasting of material during or immediatley after an attack to any social media platform before the importance of said fottage is checked and released by the relevant anti-terrorism forces. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted August 17, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: Agreed, surley the 1`st instinct is to help rather than film ? One could say its almost aiding and abeting acts of terror in the broadcasting of material during or immediatley after an attack to any social media platform before the importance of said fottage is checked and released by the relevant anti-terrorism forces. It is aiding it. So is this thread. And everyone talking about it. Terrorism aims to get people watching. To get the message out. It uses the damage and death to convey the message. The bodies are the message, and the medium of the message. Anything reporting it, helps it, unfortunately. It's a small part of the reason its historically been a common tactic. Your enemy can't ignore it and by not ignoring it you help it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Midfielder Posted August 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2017 8 hours ago, villa4europe said: Yeah just seen one, bloke just walking down the street filming the dead, people running past him screaming, crying, people running past him to try and help those injured and he just keeps filming word removed This is a sign of the times pal. An unfortunate one at that. Two years ago I witnessed a hit and run that left a motorcyclist in the middle of the road. Long story short, I had to phone 999 myself and then try to save the guy, guy didn't pull through, trauma irreversible. Two different people somewhere, have a video they're proud of, finding the "rattling" of a guy who's head was halfway round the wrong way, and also at one point mocking my failed "hey Siri, hey Siri!" When I was trying to hands free and instead of helping they just carried on filming. The Facebook generation I guess. Rant over. reading more about this attack that there, in a separate incident has been another attempt with five scumbags in "vests". Four shot dead not sure if fatalities of innocents. Also an explosion at a house too, all three incidents appearing to be coordinated. RIP to all lost and affected. Sickening shit to read I hate these C words. Also can I say this one thing that just strikes me from time to time when I see the news on tv or in the paper. Please, this is not a racist nor offensive comment: How come, some of "these people" who are so ideologised, so offended by Western culture... yet paradoxically deck themselves out in Nike and Adidas (which could be seen as buying into western materialism, western capitalism and western consumerism as if they needed a pair of trainers they could get footwear as such for a fiver I'm sure, not some £100 Air Max). In the clip I just saw, it had some of the selfie-taking, sportswear-wearing, westernish-dress looking ALLEGED suspects. You think then, oh maybe that's them before they were radicalised. Then on the news it said 'this is a recent photo' and you think well that buggers the disclaimer membtioned above then. Then the news clip cuts to a bunch of IS @&£!? marching through some war torn streets with their flag decked out in conservative black attire, you know, the traditional garments... BUT MARCHING WITH SHINY WHITE NIKE AND ADIDAS on. What a BS paradox and afront. Anyway sorry. I hate hearing about terrorism and the C-words behind the attacks. Thoughts to Barcelona and all other places experiencing the same. Not a religious guy so in the absence of praying, just hope all affected pull through as best as they can and best wishes to the Spanish emergency services especially emergency trauma and critical care teams. Fk it and while I'm at it, love for the police and the pan-European intelligence community. Get these motherf-----. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted August 18, 2017 Moderator Share Posted August 18, 2017 10 hours ago, Midfielder said: How come, some of "these people" who are so ideologised, so offended by Western culture... yet paradoxically deck themselves out in Nike and Adidas (which could be seen as buying into western materialism, western capitalism and western consumerism as if they needed a pair of trainers they could get footwear as such for a fiver I'm sure, not some £100 Air Max). As these sorts of attacks become more common, competition for heavenly virgins is getting pretty fierce. Jihadis got to show up looking their best. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 hour ago, NurembergVillan said: As these sorts of attacks become more common, competition for heavenly virgins is getting pretty fierce. Jihadis got to show up looking their best. No because there are plenty of girls in heaven from China and India. I imagine it's a right old sausage fest on our real planet in those countries though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Looks like something going on on Finland too, Guy running around stabbing people, 1 dead, half a dozen injured. police have apperntly shot the guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 18, 2017 Moderator Share Posted August 18, 2017 2 hours ago, LakotaDakota said: Looks like something going on on Finland too, Guy running around stabbing people, 1 dead, half a dozen injured. police have apperntly shot the guy Might not be terror-related. Possibly been out in the sun too long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veloman Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 21 minutes ago, bickster said: Might not be terror-related. Possibly been out in the sun too long New York Times reporting that the offender was running down the street shouting 'God is Great' in Arabic. So some slight chance of being Islamic related I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted August 18, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 18, 2017 Just now, veloman said: New York Times reporting that the offender was running down the street shouting 'God is Great' in Arabic. So some slight chance of being Islamic related I guess. Could be nuts. Hard to say on the face of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 18, 2017 Moderator Share Posted August 18, 2017 Just now, veloman said: New York Times reporting that the offender was running down the street shouting 'God is Great' in Arabic. So some slight chance of being Islamic related I guess. It's not in any of the reports I've read Every report I've read seems to go to pains to say it's not known if it is terror related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veloman Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 https://nyti.ms/2vKdBmd Perhaps I've misunderstood it or the New York Times is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted August 18, 2017 Administrator Share Posted August 18, 2017 Please can we get this thread back on topic. News stories go in new threads with tags like "breaking" and "news". This thread isn't for breaking news stories. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Looking at the very few comments on here after this latest attack in Barcelona seems to confirm, to me at least, it's almost becoming the norm now. It wasn't mentioned at my workplace at all on Friday. Maybe it is just me who thinks that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 14 minutes ago, Xela said: Looking at the very few comments on here after this latest attack in Barcelona seems to confirm, to me at least, it's almost becoming the norm now. It wasn't mentioned at my workplace at all on Friday. Maybe it is just me who thinks that. I agree, the amount of discussion on VT is often a good barometer of the amount of "shock" of an incident. Several of the comments on this and other threads on the recent attacks have also been very light hearted which also reinforces the point you're making. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 19, 2017 Moderator Share Posted August 19, 2017 Just now, Genie said: I agree, the amount of discussion on VT is often a good barometer of the amount of "shock" of an incident. Several of the comments on this and other threads on the recent attacks have also been very light hearted which also reinforces the point you're making. I'd agree too, in one way it's a bad thing, in another it's good. It means we've become desensitized to such atrocities but it also means that ISIS aren't getting the full impact they crave for said attacks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted August 19, 2017 Administrator Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 hour ago, bickster said: I'd agree too, in one way it's a bad thing, in another it's good. It means we've become desensitized to such atrocities but it also means that ISIS aren't getting the full impact they crave for said attacks It stops being terrorism when we stop bring terrified. We're rapidly moving beyond outrage. They do these things to increase division by getting the media to hype up the "then and us" bullshit. Big picture: It would probably lead to fewer of these attacks if we stopped talking about them. Like celebrity shows on TV. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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