dont_do_it_doug. Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 On 20/12/2016 at 11:41, mjmooney said: In the 1970s there was a spate of bombings in England by the Provisional IRA. Perhaps that wouldn't have happened if we'd prevented Irish people coming in to live here? Maybe sent the ones who were here back to where they came from. At least the Catholics, they were the bad'uns. Or, perhaps not... Or, perhaps, if 'we' hadn't brutally murdered 13 civilians in broad daylight we could have nipped it in the bud before it got that far. Same shit, different day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 'If we just try a little harder and reach a little further... we can find a way to blame ourselves. For everything.' Sado-Liberalism. It's the future. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 46 minutes ago, Awol said: 'If we just try a little harder and reach a little further... we can find a way to blame ourselves. For everything.' Sado-Liberalism. It's the future. Very droll, but of course our own behaviour is the easiest to change. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Berlin suspect shot dead in Milan apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 23, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 23, 2016 That is the breaking news, Italian interior minister to hold a press conference shortly. Would have been better to capture him alive but at least they got him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted December 23, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Awol said: 'If we just try a little harder and reach a little further... we can find a way to blame ourselves. For everything.' Sado-Liberalism. It's the future. Or we can accept responsibility where appropriate and do whatever we can to learn from that? Up to you. Liberalism doesn't enter the equation. Edited December 23, 2016 by dont_do_it_doug. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 1 minute ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Or we can accept resistibility where appropriate and do what we can to learn from that? Up to you. Freudian slip there? I'm sure our fellow VT members are more open to persuasion than you suggest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 23, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 23, 2016 Killed in a shoot out at a train station, Milan's a huge transport hub so seemingly he was running somewhere else. I suspose catching him alive was always unlikely. Meanwhile in Australia they've seemingly foiled a Christmas Day attack in Melbourne. Oh and another plot uncovered in Germany. Merry Christmas one and all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 23, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 23, 2016 Italian Police stopped someone acting suspiciously at 3am, when asked for ID he pulled a weapon and opened fire on the Police. No Police killed although one shot but suspect killed and identified as the Berlin suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 23, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 23, 2016 Libyian airline hijacked by two men with grenades, 118 people on board. It's been forced to land in Malta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post snowychap Posted December 23, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2016 59 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Libyian airline hijacked by two men with grenades, 118 people on board. It's been forced to land in Malta. I bet that's made them cross. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Do they actually have grenades? I read they claimed to have grenades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 16 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Or, perhaps, if 'we' hadn't brutally murdered 13 civilians in broad daylight we could have nipped it in the bud before it got that far. Same shit, different day. or 800 years etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Istanbul was on high alert last night with 17,000 police on duty yet a man dressed as Santa was still able to walk into a nightclub kill 39 people then leave again. Still at large. Incredible. Link to BBC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 27 minutes ago, Genie said: Istanbul was on high alert last night with 17,000 police on duty yet a man dressed as Santa was still able to walk into a nightclub kill 39 people then leave again. Still at large. Incredible. Link to BBC Was it too much of a stretch to have a few (like 2 or 3) undercover in all the big clubs and venues considering the 17k plodding around ? Or is that tactically to out there to be considered. It's not just the fact he walked in and shot people, but to get away as well is as you say, incredible. It is like popping a ballon with a pin currently, big area to attack with sharp and targeted hit and run attacks. It's basic gorilla warfare with the clubs or markets the compounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikantcpell Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Madness, just absolute madness. Europe needs to get used to things like this iam afraid, or atleast Turkey and western europe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted January 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2017 6 hours ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: It's basic gorilla warfare We should never have given them lightsabers. You probably mean guerilla warfare. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, Ikantcpell said: Madness, just absolute madness. Europe needs to get used to things like this iam afraid, or atleast Turkey and western europe! True. The initial incident is very difficult to defend against. Letting him get away is pretty ridiculous for a major city supposedly on high alert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 11 minutes ago, Davkaus said: We should never have given them lightsabers. You probably mean guerilla warfare. I had a friend that got found not guilty of football hooliganism on that very technicality. Back when it was trendy to be in a casual footy gang with calling cards one of the local groups were the 'guerillas'. There was a disturbance in town and the police grabbed everyone nearby and bundled them in to vans. My mate, Eddie, had gorilla stickers in his pocket (as we all do). Case was dismissed in about a minute. He had no previous, he was wearing a suit and tie and on a direct route between work and home at 6:00pm. The magistrate however, wanted to particularly concentrate for most of that minute, on why the police thought a gorilla was a guerilla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 1, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted January 1, 2017 Given that Europe has been hit numerous times over the past decade, I think it is probably used to the idea of terrorism being a thing already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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