Ikantcpell Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 10 minutes ago, Xela said: We don't know what the reason was... yet You wanna bet against it being another brainwashed muslim lunatic ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 19, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, Ikantcpell said: You wanna bet against it being another brainwashed muslim lunatic ? It might be, we shall see. But what exactly is the cancer you refer too and how do you think it should be eradicated? Because I'm struggling to see how eradicating fundamental extremism within both domestic and migrant populations is achievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikantcpell Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 31 minutes ago, mjmooney said: How? I dont know, but something needs to be done. Or should we just sit and wait for the next attack to happen, and the next, and the next.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 19, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2016 Itd be really great if we had a time machine. I dunno how you'd make one, or how it'd work, but it'd be great if we had one... However, given the use of the term 'erase this cancer from Europe once and for all' I suspect a more honest answer than 'I dunno' could be forthcoming. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 19, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 19, 2016 6 minutes ago, Ikantcpell said: I dont know, but something needs to be done. Or should we just sit and wait for the next attack to happen, and the next, and the next.... I think you'll find European security services have picked up on the need to do something already. But I'm sure they'll appreciate the heads up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Ikantcpell said: I dont know, but something needs to be done. Or should we just sit and wait for the next attack to happen, and the next, and the next.... Isn't it "funny" how the greater Evil Putin and the greatest evil Trump are both interested in bombing these folks into the stone age instead of funding etc. them ala the Cameron/Hollande/Obama/Sunni axis. This is all an almost interminable mess and will take generations to fix. Edited December 19, 2016 by villakram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 19, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, villakram said: Isn't it "funny" how the greater Evil Putin and the greatest evil Trump are both interested in bombing these folks into the stone age instead of funding etc. them ala the Cameron/Hollande/Obama/Sunni axis. This is all an almost interminable mess and will take generations to fix. Any actual evidence for this claim you continue to make about Cameron/Hollande/Obama funding ISIS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 1 minute ago, TrentVilla said: Any actual evidence for this claim you continue to make about Cameron/Hollande/Obama funding ISIS? Not just ISIS but all the religious nutters in the ME, and don't forget most things are washed via the Sunni states that you left out. There is a long track record of this going all the way back to Zia in Pakistan and then the Afghan freedom fighters back in the 80s. I consider explicit non-bombing of non-disguised and out in the open ISIS oil convoys to be equivalent to funding ISIS, and it's well known that the CIA etc. have been directly supporting the Syrian "moderate" rebels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 19, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, villakram said: Not just ISIS but all the religious nutters in the ME, and don't forget most things are washed via the Sunni states that you left out. There is a long track record of this going all the way back to Zia in Pakistan and then the Afghan freedom fighters back in the 80s. I consider explicit non-bombing of non-disguised and out in the open ISIS oil convoys to be equivalent to funding ISIS, and it's well known that the CIA etc. have been directly supporting the Syrian "moderate" rebels. So no actual evidence then, just repeated conspiracy theories with little or no foundation other than reference to previous decades. Yes I left out the Sunni states because I have less confidence in their innocence on ISIS support. I quite specifically asked about the three quite specific leaders you accused of funding ISIS, clearly you can't back them up. As for non bombing of ISIS oil trucks, I'm a little confused by this the oil distribution was heavily targeted. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Ikantcpell said: It's time to erase this cancer from europe once and for all! Its this kind of sentiment the terrorists are trying to drum up, and it looks like they're succeeding too with each attack. Yikes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikantcpell Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 18 minutes ago, Chindie said: Itd be really great if we had a time machine. I dunno how you'd make one, or how it'd work, but it'd be great if we had one... However, given the use of the term 'erase this cancer from Europe once and for all' I suspect a more honest answer than 'I dunno' could be forthcoming. Hmmm, so you dont think terrorists killing innocent people is something that need to be erased ? Are you sympathising with the terrorists?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikantcpell Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Its this kind of sentiment the terrorists are trying to drum up, and it looks like they're succeeding too with each attack. Yikes. How evil of me, wanting these terrorists dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Just now, Ikantcpell said: How evil of me, wanting these terrorists dead. You were incredibly vague, so forgive me for not knowing you were specifically talking about terrorists. How do you even go about purging 'terrorists' if its incredibly difficult to know who they are as they radicalize and carry out attacks almost instantly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 19, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Ikantcpell said: Hmmm, so you dont think terrorists killing innocent people is something that need to be erased ? Are you sympathising with the terrorists?? I'd retake that English reading comprehension class. I'm saying your phrasing is inflammatory in such a manner that it suggests extermination and it isn't much of a logical leap to decide what that really means, given your comments on this before, but you'll shy away from saying. Perhaps I'm too cynical. I don't think so though. How you've got to me being a terrorist sympathiser I've no idea. A poor attempt at deflection? Edited December 19, 2016 by Chindie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 19, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, Ikantcpell said: Hmmm, so you dont think terrorists killing innocent people is something that need to be erased ? Are you sympathising with the terrorists?? Of course he isn't, don't be so preposterous. You were asked to clarify what needed to be erased but didn't do so. Using open ended phrases like that are open to misinterpretation. It could be interpreted as being an insinuation that Muslim's collectively are the problem which is why some including Chindie and I have pressed you on it. As it is you seem to be suggesting something needs to be done to stop Islamic terrorism in Europe as if it's not occurred to anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikantcpell Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Chindie said: I'd retake that English reading comprehension class. I'm saying your phrasing is inflammatory in such a manner that it suggests extermination and it isn't much of a logical leap to decide what that really means, given your comments on this before, but you'll shy away from saying. Perhaps I'm too cynical. I don't think so though. How you've got to me being a terrorist sympathiser I've no idea. A poor attempt at deflection? Yes, i want to erase, exterminate muslim terrorists from Europe. If you think i mean something else, that is your problem not mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikantcpell Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Of course he isn't, don't be so preposterous. You were asked to clarify what needed to be erased but didn't do so. Using open ended phrases like that are open to misinterpretation. It could be interpreted as being an insinuation that Muslim's collectively are the problem which is why some including Chindie and I have pressed you on it. As it is you seem to be suggesting something needs to be done to stop Islamic terrorism in Europe as if it's not occurred to anyone. Where did i say that muslims in general were the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 19, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 19, 2016 Just now, Ikantcpell said: Where did i say that muslims in general were the problem? I think you need to re-read/read what I actually posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ikantcpell said: It's time to erase this cancer from europe once and for all! Genocide in Europe worked pretty well to be fair last time. Edited December 19, 2016 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikantcpell Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Just now, TrentVilla said: I think you need to re-read/read what I actually posted. I have, now answer my question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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