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I don't think the Daniel Craig Bond films are necessarily linked to any of the other films that came before it.

 

Who gives a shit if some idiots are pissed off at it? It's their stupid fault for being so closed minded, I couldn't care less what those morons think. It's a film. If it's well acted and well written, who cares?

 

Some people need to get some perspective and some real problems.

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we are all being ironical and fully aware the letter was a spoof?

 

yeah?

 

good, carry on

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The letter isn't a spoof it's satire, there was an email from someone fairly high up at Sony that was leaked as part of the hacking claiming that Elba has to be the next bond, that letter is actually pretty good to be fair to them

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ok now I'm really confused, is a spoof not satire?

 

I think a spoof is satire.

 

Tired.

 

I might just have to retire gracefully, backwards, into a hedge.

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Whitewashing characters in Hollywood has been going on for years, with Caucasian actors playing characters who aren't white. See Exodus: Gods and Kings last year or Star Trek the year before. If Idris Elba wants to play Bond, he should be given a fair audition at least.

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Someone being "pissed off" at a black Bond is a really good reason to make the next Idris Elba the next Bond IMO.

 

If we're pandering to racists in this, the year of our lord jesus christ 2015 then it might be time to blow up the entire planet

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If you'd have asked me to pick a new bond before this story popped up he wouldn't have crossed my mind, but the more I think about it the more I think Idris Elba would be an incredible bond, and now I really want to see it happen.

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I think he'd be a great Bond. But I can also see why it would annoy some people.

 

And I don't think that makes them close minded or racist. I just think some people like things to stay the way they are. Just liek when there was a buzz that Craig would be the first blonde Bond.

I think the same people who wouldn't like Idris being Bond would react the same if it was a woman playing Bond, or a ginger male, or fat guy, or a dwarf.

 

If someone doesn't want Idris as Bond because they don't like black people, then obviously that's totally different. But I think most people's objections to him getting the role would be more innocent than that.

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with bond it doesnt work like that, the franchise is already well established, and they have already changed him several times but always had that continuity of who he is, there are several links to previous films in every film, changing him to a black man will confuse the audience, even if they do yet another origin angle on it, and if it doesnt confuse things then it still runs the risk of pissing people off, with the talent that would (and always be) available for the role it just seems utterly pointless

Confuse the audience? I think when he walks in and says, 'The name's Bond, James Bond,' everyone will know who he is. Hell, it'll be so publicised that we have a black James Bond that no one will ever be confused.

And who would get pissed off about it? What does it actually matter in the grand scheme of things? He's a hell of an actor and would do a cracking job. What does it matter what the colour of his skin should be? I despair for people who get upset about stuff like that, it's pathetic.

It matters because the films are linked, often weakly, there are always nods to previous films, mentions of his wife etc there is at least some continuity, if you make him black then that's gone, it doesn't make sense unless they did a reboot which I can't see them doing due the success of the recent one

Seeing as people got pissed off about them doing it to Felix and then to moneypenny I don't see how you can think that it won't piss people off, I'm not it's right but there are enough idiots out there, not just in this country either

I can't think of any film or tv show that has done something similar without rebooting

 

 

Felix Leiter is a good example.

 

From Diamonds Are Forever onwards he is missing a leg and an arm after a naughty nip from a few sharks, if audiences failed to notice their miraculous regrowth, surely they won't notice a darker complexion.

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James Bond isn't a period piece if people don't want a black bond because it's out of wack with the times of the original books then surely loads of other things in the modern films shouldn't be there either. I myself personally think Idris can do better than play James Bond anyway.

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James Bond isn't a period piece if people don't want a black bond because it's out of wack with the times of the original books then surely loads of other things in the modern films shouldn't be there either. I myself personally think Idris can do better than play James Bond anyway.

No it isn't. But changing Bond's appearance is a quite big change to make. If they made him American and working for the CIA then people would be up in arms as well even if he looked exactly the same.

 

I am on the same page, in that I have no problem with a black Bond. I think Elba would do very well indeed in the role.

I just don't necessarily think that those objecting are racists.

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I don't think they're being racist either, I just don't think there's any good reason for Bond not to be black even taking in the period of the original books into account.

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Elba would be an excellent Bond because he is an excellent actor - same reason Craig is a good Bond, and so was Connery. 

 

Moore, Lazenby, Dalton and Brosnan - not so much. 

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Elba could gurn his way through a feature length product placement campaign just as much as the next guy, personally I think its beneath him. Get over yourselves, Bond is shit.

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Elba could gurn his way through a feature length product placement campaign just as much as the next guy, personally I think its beneath him. Get over yourselves, Bond is shit.

It's really not though. Not recently.

 

And whether you think it's beneath him or not, it's still a huge role for british actors.

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Elba could gurn his way through a feature length product placement campaign just as much as the next guy, personally I think its beneath him. Get over yourselves, Bond is shit.

It's really not though. Not recently.

 

And whether you think it's beneath him or not, it's still a huge role for british actors.

 

Its not shit but they are very guilty of gross product placement - "Rolex....no....Omega." :puke: 

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Have to agree to disagree. For me despite their more recent attempts to Bourne it up its still just a convoluted mess to set up lingering shots of the latest laptops and watches.

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