Czechlad Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 According to Gil's Wiki, we have signed him for a €5m fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 9, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted January 9, 2015 Expectation of this guy already way too high on here , i believe he has only ever made 8 first team appearances for the valencia team I know nothing about him so my expectations are pretty much zero, but the 8 appearances for Valencia is because he's been on loan at Elche for two seasons (and made 64 appearances for them) So it's not like he's been sat in the reserves at Valencia for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I'd be slightly indifferent on Lowton. He is the best crosser in the squad, but he is a woeful defender. FYP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Well Lambert has done well when spening similar fees on players like Vlaar, Okore, Sanchez and Benteke so that gives me some hope that Gil might turn out half decent even if I've never seen him play myself. Edited January 9, 2015 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Telegraph reporting Swansea are interested in Lowton. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/swansea-city/11333799/Swansea-prepare-2m-swoop-for-unsettled-Aston-Villa-defender-Matthew-Lowton.html Swansea City are weighing up a £2 million bid for unsettled Aston Villa defender Matthew Lowton. Garry Monk, the Swansea manager, is keen to sign a new right-back this month and has targeted either Lowton or Tottenham Hotspur's Kyle Naughton. But Spurs's asking price of £5million for Naughton means Lowton is emerging as a cheaper alternative and Swansea could make an offer. Lowton is growing increasingly frustrated over a lack of first-team opportunities at Villa has met manager Paul Lambert to discuss his future. Lowton frustrated at lack of 1st team football, maybe someone should tell him he is shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CannockVillan Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I don't quitter know how cause I've never bothered to find out but I'm reliably informed that Wiki pages can be changed very easily by anyone. With that in mind I wouldn't put too much faith into a Wiki page that he or his agent have probably never even seen. It's more likely to be my Baggie mate taking the P155 with his other Baggie mates or some blue nose thinking he's funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyvilla Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Expectation of this guy already way too high on here , i believe he has only ever made 8 first team appearances for the valencia team I know nothing about him so my expectations are pretty much zero, but the 8 appearances for Valencia is because he's been on loan at Elche for two seasons (and made 64 appearances for them) So it's not like he's been sat in the reserves at Valencia for 2 years. No i accept that , half of them for Elche would have been in division 2 as well , the point i was trying to make is that some people put huge expectation on players after seeing a few clips of them , when in reality i suspect he is pretty much unknown to most of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Telegraph reporting Swansea are interested in Lowton. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/swansea-city/11333799/Swansea-prepare-2m-swoop-for-unsettled-Aston-Villa-defender-Matthew-Lowton.html Swansea City are weighing up a £2 million bid for unsettled Aston Villa defender Matthew Lowton. Garry Monk, the Swansea manager, is keen to sign a new right-back this month and has targeted either Lowton or Tottenham Hotspur's Kyle Naughton. But Spurs's asking price of £5million for Naughton means Lowton is emerging as a cheaper alternative and Swansea could make an offer. Lowton is growing increasingly frustrated over a lack of first-team opportunities at Villa has met manager Paul Lambert to discuss his future. Lowton frustrated at lack of 1st team football, maybe someone should tell him he is shit. Maybe someone should tell him to get a pair and tell his wife to stop running his career. He won't be moving to Swansea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Telegraph reporting Swansea are interested in Lowton. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/swansea-city/11333799/Swansea-prepare-2m-swoop-for-unsettled-Aston-Villa-defender-Matthew-Lowton.html Swansea City are weighing up a £2 million bid for unsettled Aston Villa defender Matthew Lowton. Garry Monk, the Swansea manager, is keen to sign a new right-back this month and has targeted either Lowton or Tottenham Hotspur's Kyle Naughton. But Spurs's asking price of £5million for Naughton means Lowton is emerging as a cheaper alternative and Swansea could make an offer. Lowton is growing increasingly frustrated over a lack of first-team opportunities at Villa has met manager Paul Lambert to discuss his future. Lowton frustrated at lack of 1st team football, maybe someone should tell him he is shit. No tell him he's great. Let him sign for Swansea Then tell him he's Shite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 9, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Expectation of this guy already way too high on here , i believe he has only ever made 8 first team appearances for the valencia team I know nothing about him so my expectations are pretty much zero, but the 8 appearances for Valencia is because he's been on loan at Elche for two seasons (and made 64 appearances for them) So it's not like he's been sat in the reserves at Valencia for 2 years. No i accept that , half of them for Elche would have been in division 2 as well , the point i was trying to make is that some people put huge expectation on players after seeing a few clips of them , when in reality i suspect he is pretty much unknown to most of us. Yep, I don't disagree with that. You're original post sounded a bit like the 8 appearances were the only first team appearances he'd ever made. FWIW, I agree with you. Most of us know next to nothing about this guy so, if he does sign, I'll be judging him by what he does for us. Let's be honest, if his name was Tim Smith and we were signing him from Derby, there would probably be uproar on here Edited January 9, 2015 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I don't think we should be under any illusion here. Gil was well thought of at Valencia when he was younger and i'm sure they still rate him. Its probably just got to the point where he is at an age where to develop further he needs to be playing games and with Valencia flying high they may not want to take a chance on younger players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister_Master Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Quintero is out of Villa's range. On loan, maybe (and thats a big maybe). If you want someone that plays at the same places that Quintero does, you have Rafa (21) from Braga, Miguel Rosa (25) from Belenenses, André André (25) from Guimaraes, Bernardo Silva (21) on loan from Benfica to Monaco, Andre Martins (24) from Sporting. As for the Cardozo wage question, i don't know but it should not be higher than N'Zogbia's i guess. Edited January 9, 2015 by Mister_Master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rodders0223 Posted January 9, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2015 Gil has 15 passing and 15 creativity and only 6 strength according to a screen shot of his FM stats from last season. On that basis, I am not sure. Need a youtube video to be certain. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Gil has 15 passing and 15 creativity and only 6 strength according to a screen shot of his FM stats from last season. On that basis, I am not sure. Need a youtube video to be certain. They've replaced creativity with vision on the new one haven't they? What's he got for that or do we need his optical records?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 The highlights vid of him I saw seemed to show that whilst small, he had a fairly good centre of gravity and wasn't that easy to brush aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 The highlights vid of him I saw seemed to show that whilst small, he had a fairly good centre of gravity and wasn't that easy to brush aside. That's usually the case with small players precisely because they are small. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Gil has 15 passing and 15 creativity and only 6 strength according to a screen shot of his FM stats from last season. On that basis, I am not sure. Need a youtube video to be certain. I'm more concerned about his hidden attributes; his Consistency, Ambition and Pressure could all be vital to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Why are we asuuming the Gil rumour is credible ? - not saying it isn't - but haven't seen any serious links ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I thought he would have signed by now got a feeling there is nothing in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I don't think we should be under any illusion here. Gil was well thought of at Valencia when he was younger and i'm sure they still rate him. Its probably just got to the point where he is at an age where to develop further he needs to be playing games and with Valencia flying high they may not want to take a chance on younger players. Whilst I have my doubts, at the moment at least, about Lambert's abilities overall, when he has been able to spend decent money, in Aston Villa terms, he has done well, so if he wants to buy Gil for that sort of money I would be hopeful that Gil would be a good buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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