CrackpotForeigner Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 According to some, people will be going to mars in the next ten years or so. Personally I think there are too many reasons why this obvious idea is being considered about 100 years too early, technology-wise. So I guess this thread is for discussing the technological and psychological requirements for getting people there and keeping them there. Extra marks will be awarded for pointing out the many problems and possible solutions to them. Ukk, ukk. I come in peace. Ukk ukk ukkk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I think Russell brand should be the first man sent to mars. Wether the unfunny **** wants to go or not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 31, 2014 Moderator Share Posted October 31, 2014 Keeping them there won't be an issue. So that is that one solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Don't see how this is news worthy, I see plenty of people on the high street everyday who I assume were born on mars or one of it's neighbouring planets 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) Keeping them there won't be an issue. So that is that one solved. You mean our current planet would be better off without people crazy enough to want to leave it? In which case, I partly agree, but with added empathy for the lunatics in question - 'cause I'm such a good bloke an' that. Does anyone think that a person could stay sane, watching Earth disappear into the distance forever? I don't. Then there's the effect of the journey on the human body: Bones that weaken over a journey that would take longer than anyone's ever been in space for. And they haven't yet designed a rocket anything like big enough to do the job of getting the people there, let alone the monumental amount of supplies they'd need to have a chance of surviving sane. It's all a pipe dream imo, and I'm amazed it's even being seriously considered. Hope to hear from anyone who disagrees, along with their full, factual, reasoning. Edited October 31, 2014 by CrackpotForeigner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Then there's the effect of the journey on the human body: Bones that weaken over a journey that would take longer than anyone's ever been in space for. Some Russian chap has done 14 continuous months in space which is long enough to pop to Mars and back. Think NASA have scrapped their plans to get there by 2030. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 Some Russian chap has done 14 continuous months in space which is long enough to pop to Mars and back. That's the sort of fact we need around here. There's a pretty good Wikipedia article on the subject (that I've just been reading): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manned_mission_to_Mars. Another fact seems to be that the radiation danger isn't ridiculously high: A round trip is estimated to subject the travellers to 0.66 Sieverts, with the NASA HSE career limit of exposure being 1.0 Sievert. So human psychology might be the biggest stumbling block after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogso Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 There's no rush. If everything goes according to plan, we'll get the first manned stations on there ~2080, which in turn would allow us to actually colonise the place by ~2100. By ~2150 we should be in a position to dig up the prothean ruins, get our hands on some element zero, develop FTL drives, and discover our local mass relay encased in ice orbiting Pluto, which is when the shit will really hit the fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dAVe80 Posted October 31, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) Keep Mars Martian! They don't want any Earthlings moving in! Mars is full! This comment was brought to you on behalf of the Mars Independence Party Edited October 31, 2014 by dAVe80 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Don't see how this is news worthy, I see plenty of people on the high street everyday who I assume were born on mars or one of it's neighbouring planets Earth? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 31, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2014 **** Mars. Let's skip it. All the cool kids go to Jupiter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobisher Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 There's no rush. If everything goes according to plan, we'll get the first manned stations on there ~2080, which in turn would allow us to actually colonise the place by ~2100. By ~2150 we should be in a position to dig up the prothean ruins, get our hands on some element zero, develop FTL drives, and discover our local mass relay encased in ice orbiting Pluto, which is when the shit will really hit the fan. Tell me another story about The Shepard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismail-villa Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I don't think it's reasonable to place people on top of a chocolate bar... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I think it should be done as soon as possible. Yes, there are massive risks, people will die (they know the risks beforehand), but it will open up a new chapter in human exploration. Only way to know if it succeeds or not is to go for it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 I think it should be done as soon as possible. Yes, there are massive risks, people will die (they know the risks beforehand), but it will open up a new chapter in human exploration. Only way to know if it succeeds or not is to go for it! As long as none of us has to volunteer. The thing for me is that we're all just DNA anyway. I really think that what we should be doing is seeding primitive life forms around the universe as much as possible. I'd argue that's far more feasible than a mars colony - the Voyager 1 space probe launced in 1977 is already out of our solar system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 There was a documentary on BBC4 last night called The Horizon Guide to Mars. Don't know if it inspired this thread but it should be available online. They have problems growing seeds in space, apparently they're only good for a few generations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 There was a documentary on BBC4 last night called The Horizon Guide to Mars. Don't know if it inspired this thread but it should be available online. They have problems growing seeds in space, apparently they're only good for a few generations. Thread "inspired" (thanks for choosing that word ) by the article on the BBC news front page. Will look for the HGtoM. I guess the seeds have problems because of DNA damage due to radiation (?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I always think, why mars? I'd rather live on the moon I like cheese, and it's got a place called the Sea of Serenity.. sounds pretty chill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 31, 2014 Moderator Share Posted October 31, 2014 Keeping them there won't be an issue. So that is that one solved. You mean our current planet would be better off without people crazy enough to want to leave it? In which case, I partly agree, but with added empathy for the lunatics in question - 'cause I'm such a good bloke an' that. Does anyone think that a person could stay sane, watching Earth disappear into the distance forever? I don't. Then there's the effect of the journey on the human body: Bones that weaken over a journey that would take longer than anyone's ever been in space for. And they haven't yet designed a rocket anything like big enough to do the job of getting the people there, let alone the monumental amount of supplies they'd need to have a chance of surviving sane. It's all a pipe dream imo, and I'm amazed it's even being seriously considered. Hope to hear from anyone who disagrees, along with their full, factual, reasoning. No, I just mean there wouldn't be a way for them to get back. Once there they will be there for ever it's a one way ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 **** Mars. Let's skip it. All the cool kids go to Jupiter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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