SikhInTrinity Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I don't buy all this acting sooner, as people have mentioned I think PL and co probably thought it would pass with success on the pitch, but our form in the past month lead to 4 defeats has made it unbearable for the players and the other backroom staff. Think they are acting because they are bricking it that it is impacting the players performances, which has been notable in the past two, that first half against Palace was like them playing with no care in the world, nor did they want to fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 You can tell that by watching us play on a Saturday I'd say that's more to do with formations, players picked and the way we approach a game. Forget the formation for a sec and the players picked, but about 5 times in the first half Delph had the ball with no pressure and booted it straight out of play. Gabby possibly running stats were the worst, there was just no passion or fight in the way we were playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I'm starting to think this might be something a lot more serious than we realise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I'm starting to think this might be something a lot more serious than we realise. I'm starting to think that this thread is getting crowded with a load of pseudo employment law specialists! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 You can tell that by watching us play on a Saturday I'd say that's more to do with formations, players picked and the way we approach a game. Forget the formation for a sec and the players picked, but about 5 times in the first half Delph had the ball with no pressure and booted it straight out of play. Gabby possibly running stats were the worst, there was just no passion or fight in the way we were playing. Maybe. But we've played awful football for the majority of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Just in case you needed any more proof that this is about more than being nasty to the canteen staff, Randy Lerner has spoken - Randy Lerner has acknowledged that he "could not ask for more" from Villa legend Gordon Cowans and senior player Shay Given who have been "unhesitating in answering the manager's call", stepping up to assist manager Paul Lambert ahead of Saturday's game against Southampton. The Villa Chairman identified "loyalty, commitment and support" as key qualities at a time when "unexpected issues [and] very real obstacles" have to be overcome. European Cup winner Cowans immediately emphasised to the players the need to give 100 percent commitment for the remainder of the season, which the Villa Chairman knows Lambert will get from Cowans and Given. "Our manager has been faced with some unexpected issues that could have very easily set the Club back," he said. "In watching him handle matters, along with our Chief Exec, I've seen total loyalty and commitment to Aston Villa while Gordon, a Villa man through and through, has repeatedly stepped up to support the Club regardless of the ask. "Shay, too, has been unhesitating in answering the manager's call. I couldn't ask for more from people who are up for this challenge and the very real obstacles we have to overcome, as is everyone at the Club." Cowans, who joined Villa as a 15-year-old apprentice and in three spells at the Club made a total of 527 appearances, assisted Lambert in training yesterday, as did former Irish international Given, alongside Scott Marshall. Having served previously as first team coach and popularly known as 'Sid', the 55-year-old knows that the priority between now and the end of the season is simply winning games. "When the manager asked me to step up I didn't hesitate. This is a challenge we face and we face it together as a club," he said. "From now until the end of the season we need 100 percent commitment from everybody and I know we'll get this. "The Club is too big, too many people are invested in this in terms of their heart and soul and we need to embrace that and not be daunted by it. "This is a good group, a very honest group, an ambitious group. Training was terrific yesterday - the tempo, the attitude, the commitment, the energy and this is what we need to bring into the game on Saturday. "We're very focused on this. Our priority is to go and win football games. That requires determination, passion and the right performance level but that's what we're about at this club because we have that tradition and we gain strength from that. "The here and now is simple really. The manager is a winner, a football man through and through. He knows what he needs in order for the team to go and perform and win. "Everybody's in this together - players, staff, fans. The fans are really important here, they always have been, so we have everything we need to go and do the job." Given, too, has embraced the challenge having already secured his UEFA B License and UEFA A License and he has an intimate appreciation of the strength of feeling within the playing squad. "The players are desperate to succeed here and to secure the results we need between now and the end of the season," he said. "There's real belief, too, which has always been there. "Any club can go through trying periods but the most important thing for me is the football club. The football club will always be here and that's why it's the most important thing, so we all know our responsibilities. "We all know that we can get the results we're looking for also and I had no doubts in my mind whatsoever the moment the manager asked me to step up. "I know I can help and that's my intention but the focus is very much on the collective because that's how we are as a group. "The fans have been tremendous in backing the team and, if we perform to our maximum in the games, that support will go a long way in the game against Southampton and in our remaining games this season." http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3770361,00.html I'd call that "then some" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GarethRDR Posted April 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2014 Exclusive footage of the alleged bust up... 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Exclusive footage of the alleged bust up... for picking on Gabby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I don't buy all this acting sooner, as people have mentioned I think PL and co probably thought it would pass with success on the pitch, but our form in the past month lead to 4 defeats has made it unbearable for the players and the other backroom staff. Think they are acting because they are bricking it that it is impacting the players performances, which has been notable in the past two, that first half against Palace was like them playing with no care in the world, nor did they want to fight. We haven't just had poor form in the "past month", Since 4th December we have taken 15 points from 20 games, with only 4 wins. So it's a pity someone didn't wake up to it a bit sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyHowell Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Be careful when reading statements carefully crafted by PR and Press people. They mean very little in reality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) I don't buy all this acting sooner, as people have mentioned I think PL and co probably thought it would pass with success on the pitch, but our form in the past month lead to 4 defeats has made it unbearable for the players and the other backroom staff. Think they are acting because they are bricking it that it is impacting the players performances, which has been notable in the past two, that first half against Palace was like them playing with no care in the world, nor did they want to fight. We haven't just had poor form in the "past month", Since 4th December we have taken 15 points from 20 games, with only 4 wins. So it's a pity someone didn't wake up to it a bit sooner. Okay you're right. Edited April 16, 2014 by SikhInTrinity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 This stuff is like Hollyoaks/TOWIE/Made in Chelsea for men. I heard Culverhouse got off with Lambert's wife.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 This stuff is like Hollyoaks/TOWIE/Made in Chelsea for men. I heard Culverhouse got off with Lambert's wife.... Where have you been since 1992!? The Premier Sky Sports League is like Hollyoaks/TOWIE/Made in Chelsea for men. It's sometimes so farcical, it wouldn't surprise me if it was revealed that the whole thing is partially scripted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny*Nunny Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 They weren't responsible for this were they they ? Who knows. I've seen this posted a few times and i still am not able to read it even when i zoom in. Anyone a better copy? I wouldn't bother it's obviously fake anyway. Why do people think that's a leak, or fake? The opposition gets the team the same time as the ref about, what, an hour before kick-off? Why is it so unlikely that they had a blurb written up about every player in the squad, and once the Villa team was announced they printed that document off with the starting XI for their players so they could do a bit of quick preparation in the run up to the game starting? Would they know the actual position of each player though including accurate positions of each CB with Baker in the middle of Clark and Vlaar? Plus, if you look closely you can see the shadow of the hands of the person that is holding it. There be hairs on them hands............. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Well I'm asking myself if one of them has been leaking teamnews to other teams. If that's the case then I hope the teams in receipt of the information are severely punished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 They weren't responsible for this were they they ? Who knows. I've seen this posted a few times and i still am not able to read it even when i zoom in. Anyone a better copy? I wouldn't bother it's obviously fake anyway. Why do people think that's a leak, or fake? The opposition gets the team the same time as the ref about, what, an hour before kick-off? Why is it so unlikely that they had a blurb written up about every player in the squad, and once the Villa team was announced they printed that document off with the starting XI for their players so they could do a bit of quick preparation in the run up to the game starting? Would they know the actual position of each player though including accurate positions of each CB with Baker in the middle of Clark and Vlaar? Plus, if you look closely you can see the shadow of the hands of the person that is holding it. There be hairs on them hands............. Richard Keys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) Would they know the actual position of each player though including accurate positions of each CB with Baker in the middle of Clark and Vlaar? They're professionals, I'm sure they could make a pretty accurate guess (plus Vlaar typically plays on the right of CB, so there was a 50/50 shot of getting Baker and Clark in the right spot) Edited April 16, 2014 by P3te Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Would they know the actual position of each player though including accurate positions of each CB with Baker in the middle of Clark and Vlaar? They're professionals, I'm sure they could make a pretty accurate guess (plus Vlaar typically plays on the right of CM, so there was a 50/50 shot of getting Baker and Clark in the right spot) professionals, unlike yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) Just in case you needed any more proof that this is about more than being nasty to the canteen staff, Randy Lerner has spoken -Randy Lerner has acknowledged that he "could not ask for more" from Villa legend Gordon Cowans and senior player Shay Given who have been "unhesitating in answering the manager's call", stepping up to assist manager Paul Lambert ahead of Saturday's game against Southampton. The Villa Chairman identified "loyalty, commitment and support" as key qualities at a time when "unexpected issues [and] very real obstacles" have to be overcome. European Cup winner Cowans immediately emphasised to the players the need to give 100 percent commitment for the remainder of the season, which the Villa Chairman knows Lambert will get from Cowans and Given. "Our manager has been faced with some unexpected issues that could have very easily set the Club back," he said. "In watching him handle matters, along with our Chief Exec, I've seen total loyalty and commitment to Aston Villa while Gordon, a Villa man through and through, has repeatedly stepped up to support the Club regardless of the ask. "Shay, too, has been unhesitating in answering the manager's call. I couldn't ask for more from people who are up for this challenge and the very real obstacles we have to overcome, as is everyone at the Club." Cowans, who joined Villa as a 15-year-old apprentice and in three spells at the Club made a total of 527 appearances, assisted Lambert in training yesterday, as did former Irish international Given, alongside Scott Marshall. Having served previously as first team coach and popularly known as 'Sid', the 55-year-old knows that the priority between now and the end of the season is simply winning games. "When the manager asked me to step up I didn't hesitate. This is a challenge we face and we face it together as a club," he said. "From now until the end of the season we need 100 percent commitment from everybody and I know we'll get this. "The Club is too big, too many people are invested in this in terms of their heart and soul and we need to embrace that and not be daunted by it. "This is a good group, a very honest group, an ambitious group. Training was terrific yesterday - the tempo, the attitude, the commitment, the energy and this is what we need to bring into the game on Saturday. "We're very focused on this. Our priority is to go and win football games. That requires determination, passion and the right performance level but that's what we're about at this club because we have that tradition and we gain strength from that. "The here and now is simple really. The manager is a winner, a football man through and through. He knows what he needs in order for the team to go and perform and win. "Everybody's in this together - players, staff, fans. The fans are really important here, they always have been, so we have everything we need to go and do the job." Given, too, has embraced the challenge having already secured his UEFA B License and UEFA A License and he has an intimate appreciation of the strength of feeling within the playing squad. "The players are desperate to succeed here and to secure the results we need between now and the end of the season," he said. "There's real belief, too, which has always been there. "Any club can go through trying periods but the most important thing for me is the football club. The football club will always be here and that's why it's the most important thing, so we all know our responsibilities. "We all know that we can get the results we're looking for also and I had no doubts in my mind whatsoever the moment the manager asked me to step up. "I know I can help and that's my intention but the focus is very much on the collective because that's how we are as a group. "The fans have been tremendous in backing the team and, if we perform to our maximum in the games, that support will go a long way in the game against Southampton and in our remaining games this season." http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3770361,00.htmlI'd call that "then some" Ah so that's what you meant 2 years ago. Good prediction. Edited April 16, 2014 by Big_John_10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Would they know the actual position of each player though including accurate positions of each CB with Baker in the middle of Clark and Vlaar? They're professionals, I'm sure they could make a pretty accurate guess (plus Vlaar typically plays on the right of CM, so there was a 50/50 shot of getting Baker and Clark in the right spot) professionals, unlike yourself Haha goddamn typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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