PaulC Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 8 hours ago, villalad21 said: Come on bro. It wasn't all bad under him. Nearly all shit apart from the odd game you could say this season as well. Does that mean Smith is a fraud? Lambert had a truly awful team and somehow managed to keep us up for 2 seasons. He wasn’t given the budget smith was either. He had to shop at Poundland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, PaulC said: He wasn’t given the budget smith was either. He had to shop at Poundland. So has Smith, we spent average 10 million per signing last summer. Peanuts in Premier League Wesley, Samatta and El Ghazi combined cost less than Joelinton or Haller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 minute ago, PaulC said: He wasn’t given the budget smith was either. He had to shop at Poundland. Yet he created the bomb squad and devalued the players he had. Then some of his signings were very questionable about why they were signed. There were other cheap strikers about, yet he signed Jordan Bowery, someone who had never looked like a player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Benteke could be considered his only big money signing. Westwood, lowton. Lambert gave the player who came through the academy like Clark, Baker, Weimann a chance. He wasn’t a bad manager just got burnt out at villa and lost the plot at the end. If smith keeps us up then he will go up in my estimations but relegation we are back to square one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Yet he created the bomb squad and devalued the players he had. Then some of his signings were very questionable about why they were signed. There were other cheap strikers about, yet he signed Jordan Bowery, someone who had never looked like a player The bomb squad. Was he not told to reduce the wage bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Just now, PaulC said: The bomb squad. Was he not told to reduce the wage bill. Nope was confirmed that he set it up himself and gutless so he was afraid to tell the players to there face Bannan confirmed this few months back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Kendrick's Dentist Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, PaulC said: Benteke could be considered his only big money signing. Westwood, lowton. Lambert gave the player who came through the academy like Clark, Baker, Weimann a chance. He wasn’t a bad manager just got burnt out at villa and lost the plot at the end. If smith keeps us up then he will go up in my estimations but relegation we are back to square one. When he was given money he spunked it on Kozak even though we had loads of strikers and were badly short elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Kendrick's Dentist Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Zatman said: Nope was confirmed that he set it up himself and gutless so he was afraid to tell the players to there face Bannan confirmed this few months back Made Darren Bent captain before suddenly deciding he'd never play again, and didn't have the decency to tell him face to face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) I don't care what his backers say. He was/is a mumbling anti-football word removed. I said he'd **** Ipswich up and I was right. My opinion, strangely shared by many others. Like @Xela said, not only did he make me hate football, I actually stopped attending because of him and his shit football and "tactics" that just didn't work. He did me a favour there financially though Edited March 8, 2020 by rjw63 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Lerner did more damage than lambert imo. Don’t think any manager would have done much with the financial restrictions he placed on the club after the financial crash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 2 hours ago, PaulC said: The bomb squad. Was he not told to reduce the wage bill. Even if he was, which others said below, how was sticking them in a bomb reducing the wage bill. It’s in fact making it harder to get rid of players 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 23 hours ago, villalad21 said: Did a good job keeping us up. Sadly turned into a dinosaur in his last season. We played some good stuff in his 1st season. Literally the exact opposite. His dinosaur counter attacking football in year 1 was us at his best. When he went all continental and tried to bring in a passing style of play we went to rat shit. Westwood 85% pass accuracy peak. zero shots zero goals zero forward passes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Don't get the people who say he made them hate football because of how bad we were. Did Alex McLeish and his famous Dutch 4-3-3 not already manage to accomplish that the year before? We played shockingly similar ineffective football from Houllier for most of the season to McLeish to Lambert, Sherwood, Garde and even Smith this season at times. The common thread being all of those teams were just poor in terms of quality and to be fair Lambert had the worst of them all. From Bennett to Bacuna to Tonev to Kozak to Sylla etc etc, we had a pitiful excuse for a squad. I wouldn't have backed that squad to finish in the playoff places in the Championship. So not really sure what people were expecting there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Season wrapped. Guided Ipswich to a mammoth 11th place. Their lowest since 1952. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Kendrick's Dentist Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Egregious manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 31 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Season wrapped. Guided Ipswich to a mammoth 11th place. Their lowest since 1952. as I posted in the other thread, his personal highest position finish since 2011. I think he has managed every season since then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Goes against the spirit of this thread but read a good article last week on his 18 months at Dortmund. I didn't actually realise he was an out of contract midfield who just went on trial there. For some reason I thought he was at Celtic first and Dortmund picked him up (he actually joined Celtic after his german spell) but Motherwell actually released him and he was fixed up on trial and won a contract. Did a great job on Zidane in 97 euro final which is remembered for Lars Ricken goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 On 09/03/2020 at 16:37, Keyblade said: Don't get the people who say he made them hate football because of how bad we were. Did Alex McLeish and his famous Dutch 4-3-3 not already manage to accomplish that the year before? We played shockingly similar ineffective football from Houllier for most of the season to McLeish to Lambert, Sherwood, Garde and even Smith this season at times. The common thread being all of those teams were just poor in terms of quality and to be fair Lambert had the worst of them all. From Bennett to Bacuna to Tonev to Kozak to Sylla etc etc, we had a pitiful excuse for a squad. I wouldn't have backed that squad to finish in the playoff places in the Championship. So not really sure what people were expecting there. Everyone knew how we'd play under McLeish and it panned out exactly like we thought it would...dismally. I think there was hope with Lambert given the swashbuckling way Norwich adapted to prem in 11/12. Comfortably stayed up and were an exciting team to watch. I think they'd have been found out the next season though and think he knew that so our offer was pretty good timing. Annoying after all we went through in 12/13 that we didn't build on the promising ending when we were exciting to watch. He didn't help himself just buying endless lower league players just to bulk up the squad when 2-3 higher calibre players were needed. Will be similar situation if we stay up in the summer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Everyone knew how we'd play under McLeish and it panned out exactly like we thought it would...dismally. I think there was hope with Lambert given the swashbuckling way Norwich adapted to prem in 11/12. Comfortably stayed up and were an exciting team to watch. I think they'd have been found out the next season though and think he knew that so our offer was pretty good timing. Annoying after all we went through in 12/13 that we didn't build on the promising ending when we were exciting to watch. He didn't help himself just buying endless lower league players just to bulk up the squad when 2-3 higher calibre players were needed. Will be similar situation if we stay up in the summer. He had a budget like 10m per window. That either gets you 1 halfway decent player or 2-4 paltry squad fillers. Since we were battling for our lives, I can see why the latter seemed the better proposition. That 15-0 Chrismtas period really did a number on him. He saw what a couple of injuries could do to our squad. When you're down to starting Herd and Lichaj in the same defence, you know you're in trouble. But yeah there were too many false dawns under Lambert. The end of the 12/13 season was so promising. I felt like we had a chance to win in every game, especially the away ones. The start of 13/14 was really good too. Beat Arsenal, played Chelsea off the park, masterclass in the League Cup and then pure tripe. Beginning of 14/15 same thing. 10 points first 4 games and then utter trash. So frustrating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Any other club would have sacked him after the Christmas shambles and then soon after the Bradford embarrassment 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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