John_Lerwill Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Its been changed so many times, but the current one, which is a shield is closer to the original than the roundel (which Middlesborough still use with a rampant lion); I think it wasn’t introduced until the 1950s, though I am sure John Lerwell would know this! The two most important things are the Rampant Lion looking to the left (from our Scottish roots, I guess) and the motto. The first time the Villa 'Prepared' badge was introduced was in the 1957 FA Cup Final if I remembers correctly...and a badge has been displayed ever since I think. BUT... I'm pretty sure that if you look at some very early (1880s) photos, when Villa were playing (I believe) in a all-maroon or claret shirt, the Villa lion was on the shirt. The badge was then dropped until the 1957 appearance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ligs Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 The old one, have it tattooed on my left arm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbaldie1 Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Was our 1st crest, the City of Birmingham coat of arms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Lerwill Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Was our 1st crest, the City of Birmingham coat of arms? I seem to recall something about this (that Villa did adopt the City of Brum arms) at some stage, but I've got a feeling that happened late in the 1880s and was a brief appearance. As stated earlier, the Villa lion was almost certainly present beforehand, and afterwards of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poll-AVFC Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 I am maybe old fashioned but give the old one. Not that commercial new one. But that old looks like the badge of UEFA, don't you think so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 John you are right, I looked at a picture of 1887 and the players all have crests on, but none were on the shirts until 1957. In the book Aston Villa 2000: the official graphic history, there is a painting of Ramsey in black shirt with red rampant lion looking right. I am not sure if this is painted from a real source or a fabrication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Lerwill Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 John you are right, I looked at a picture of 1887 and the players all have crests on, but none were on the shirts until 1957. Glad you've found that! Yes, the 1957 Wembley striped strip was specially designed because of the strip clash with Man U, and the badge was brought into it then (and kept for normal use). In the book Aston Villa 2000: the official graphic history, there is a painting of Ramsey in black shirt with red rampant lion looking right. I am not sure if this is painted from a real source or a fabrication. I haven't seen that! - I must go out and get some of these books! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmie Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 yeah i prefer the round badge, i hate the kit at the mo. i had a kit when i was young(not that long ago) in the 80's that laced up at the neck I love that shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyG Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 I prefer the round one and the old blue lion to what we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 I just got the Rotterdam retro shirt, and the round badge on it is absolutely beautiful. I wouldn't mind if we reintroduced, to be honest. Though, I still rate the new one as one of the better looking in the Prem. Of the two, I'd go for the old round one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGoodman Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 We didn't need a crest before '57. We were the famous Aston Villa. Those claret and blue shirts alone were enough to distinguish us. I would like us to return to the round badge, with proper gold thread instead of yellow and the addition of a star for the EC win and the year of our formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelle Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 The round one, mostly 'cause it was the one that was used when I started to support Villa and one of the main things that I chose this wonderful club. But I like this one too, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockingbird_franklin Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Was our 1st crest, the City of Birmingham coat of arms? I seem to recall something about this (that Villa did adopt the City of Brum arms) at some stage, but I've got a feeling that happened late in the 1880s and was a brief appearance. As stated earlier, the Villa lion was almost certainly present beforehand, and afterwards of course. Just curious about this, what year did Aston become part of Birmingham. wasnt Aston brought under birmingham control in 1911, so why would they bear the city of birmingham crest in the 1880's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockingbird_franklin Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 oh and old crest as mentioned before, the one you'll find on the 57 replica shirt, you used to see it on a wonderful stand that some egotistical pants pisser ripped done and replaced with the B&Q superstore stand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCresswell Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 When the current "retro" look isn't in fashion will everyone be campaigning for the return of a different badge? It costs a lot of money for corporate change of identity, which effectively this would be. The money would be better spent elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubav Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 I would settle for the old round badge back any day have never liked the new crest i think its because the old one reminds me of the heady days of winning the league and the european cup and it looks more of a traditional badge than the new crest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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