BOF Posted June 16, 2016 Moderator Share Posted June 16, 2016 12 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: France are shit, 100% will not win this tournament. 12 hours ago, Genie said: Play poor and win, sign of a good team. We also can't underestimate the effect of playing every game with 12 men. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Except that the "style" absolutely did work against Russia. We were let down by poor finishing. Yes but what do you expect when its Lallana and Sterling. Ranieri built a system around the players he had, it wasn't always pretty but they got results. Hodgson is picking players to fit his system when he is leaving better players on the bench. Lallana and Sterlng scored 10 goals in 60 league games between them last season and with Rooney in midfield, all the oppostion have to do is stop Harry Kane. Edited June 16, 2016 by PaulC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, PaulC said: Yes but what do you expect when its Lallana and Sterling. Ranieri built a system around the players he had, it wasn't always pretty but they got results. Hodgson is picking players to fit his system when he is leaving better players on the bench. Lallana and Sterlng scored 10 goals in 60 league games between them last season and with Rooney in midfield, all the oppostion have to do is stop Harry Kane. Yes. I keep hearing about this 'quality' Lallana performance but it was very far from quality, despite showing some nice touches and dribbling with the ball well he has no end product at all. Sterling at this stage is an absolute joke and his career appears to be on the slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Yes Lallana is a nice pretty footballer with little or no end product. The art of good management is find a system that will work with your best players. Whether thats back to the old 4-4-2 like Leicester then so be it. We may play some pleasing football with Lallana and Sterling and Rooney pulling the stings in midfield but we wont get very far in the tournament like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I can't stand Lallana but thought he had a good game. Same old problem with him though, some neat touches and build-up play but infuriating lack of end product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 For me Sturridge should start as he is our best striker. He can also make things happen which Kane can't imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, omariqy said: For me Sturridge should start as he is our best striker. He can also make things happen which Kane can't imo. I would pick Kane and Vardy over him. Vardy has that extra pace and intensity and he's a winner. The fact is he's built his team around the Spurs team that bottled it in the Premier League and the side that won it cant get a look in. Reminds me of the 82 world cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 16, 2016 Moderator Share Posted June 16, 2016 Sturridge probably is your most effective striker. The obvious problem is that he's made of tissue paper. The decision then becomes do you wait to use him in the knockouts, or do you use him to make sure you get there in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Norn Iron will bow out tonight I think. Two other games should be good ones. Hoping for Poland & Wales wins, but I don't expect either to happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I couldn't care less about dribbles completed, passes completed and saying stuff like "he had a decent game" etc - the only stats that matter are goals and assists. Lallana and Sterling lack both. Drop them - The end. I still can't believe Andros Townsend isn't in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 12 minutes ago, BOF said: Sturridge probably is your most effective striker. The obvious problem is that he's made of tissue paper. The decision then becomes do you wait to use him in the knockouts, or do you use him to make sure you get there in the first place? For me hes our third striker so off the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 1 hour ago, pas5898 said: I couldn't care less about dribbles completed, passes completed and saying stuff like "he had a decent game" etc - the only stats that matter are goals and assists. Lallana and Sterling lack both. Drop them - The end. I still can't believe Andros Townsend isn't in the squad. You say that all that matters is goals and assists but then you cite Andros Townsend as a player to produce both. Tut tut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 16, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 16, 2016 In club football, it's Aston Villa or nothing for me. None of this "supporting the English teams in Europe" nonsense. Internationals are oddly different. I have no strong feelings about it, but I sort of like all the "home nations" (I include the RoI in that) to do well. England-Wales, I genuinely don't mind who wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Woy is a pwat for picking Waheem again. That kid lost any form he had when joining Man City. He showed enough to get his big move and is now an overpaid show pony who will follow Wright-Phillips into being a benchwarmer. Vardy and Rashford out wide with Rooney sitting deeper so Alli can play behind Kane. Attack like crazy because those Welsh players are average. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 10 minutes ago, mjmooney said: In club football, it's Aston Villa or nothing for me. None of this "supporting the English teams in Europe" nonsense. Internationals are oddly different. I have no strong feelings about it, but I sort of like all the "home nations" (I include the RoI in that) to do well. England-Wales, I genuinely don't mind who wins. I'm pretty much with you there. Obviously I support England but I do like to see all the home nations do well. Apart from Northern Ireland because they bore me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Joe Hart should just chill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I'm predicting that Sterling will have a really good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CardiffGreens Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Just hope we can keep Bale upright in his ever-present battle against gravity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, useless said: Joe Hart should just chill. Impossible. He is always ridiculously pumped up. I wonder if it it detrimental sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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