rodders0223 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) Given we have no or little money to spend and Lambo had a reputed budget of £10M this summer, then 8M suggests to me there may be a sizeable player departure or two. If its someone like Gabby and Bent and maybe Clark or Baker then thats fine. If it is Delph or Vlaar or Benteke in the winter then thats an issue £8M for a player in the last year of his contract who has flattered to deceive and when we would need strengthening elsewhere, not sure I want this to be true Says the man who constantly moans at us for not spending money. I think Richard wants us to spend money on proven quality, not just money for the sake of it. What the hell is your problem. Randy? £8m is the going rate in today's market. Tell me what more you can get for £8m this summer? As for 'proven quality', he has about 4 years of Prem experience behind him and has played for his country. Anderson at Man United is also proven quality then... Proven as in can do it at the highest level, not just appearances or caps. He has played in a Champions league final, yeah I would say he is proven. Anderson is proven? Maybe we should sign Fabio from Cardiff too? One was a rotation player who made a handful of starts and released to Cardiff, the other is player who played a major part in several trophies and played in a CL final. Erm... Anderson then? Much more appearances for United, must be twice the player. You don't actually watch football do you? I do, but I don't base my opinion on appearances and caps, more what I see on the pitch. As you said, Cleverley is proven because he has played for Man United and also in the Champions League, same goes for Anderson who has more appearances. Let me guess, your next answer is another insult? Yeah, both those players are proven. They are played PL, CL and international football. They have proven they can play at this level. We have been buying players from LG1 and inferior leagues who haven't proven they can play at this level (and showed) What is hard to understand about this? Do you know what proven means? Cleverley is a proven PL midfielder, how is there a downside to this? Edited August 28, 2014 by rodders0223 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I love it how the armchair accountants have decided there must be be better value players out there ! With very rare exceptions you pay the going rate and you get what you pay for. If they get 8m for him it will because more than one club would pay 7m......and if there are cheaper players,of similar quality,how are available, and want to come,then I think it is safe to assume pl would get them instead ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmarsha_926 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Hull need a striker, why spend the Long money on a CM. Is Bruce doing a Lambert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Wonder what wages he'd be on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Hutton, Senderos, Cissoko, Richardson, Sanchez, Cleverly, Cole. Hopefully a right winger and Grealish and Okore in too. Luna, Tonev, Helenius, Bennett, etc.. out. Pretty much an awesome squad improvement from Lambert this summer. the moment he can offer competitive wages he aquits himself superbly Top marks Now that's OTT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) Given we have no or little money to spend and Lambo had a reputed budget of £10M this summer, then 8M suggests to me there may be a sizeable player departure or two. If its someone like Gabby and Bent and maybe Clark or Baker then thats fine. If it is Delph or Vlaar or Benteke in the winter then thats an issue £8M for a player in the last year of his contract who has flattered to deceive and when we would need strengthening elsewhere, not sure I want this to be true Says the man who constantly moans at us for not spending money. I think Richard wants us to spend money on proven quality, not just money for the sake of it. What the hell is your problem. Randy? £8m is the going rate in today's market. Tell me what more you can get for £8m this summer? As for 'proven quality', he has about 4 years of Prem experience behind him and has played for his country. Anderson at Man United is also proven quality then... Proven as in can do it at the highest level, not just appearances or caps. He has played in a Champions league final, yeah I would say he is proven. Anderson is proven? Maybe we should sign Fabio from Cardiff too? One was a rotation player who made a handful of starts and released to Cardiff, the other is player who played a major part in several trophies and played in a CL final. Erm... Anderson then? Much more appearances for United, must be twice the player. You don't actually watch football do you? I do, but I don't base my opinion on appearances and caps, more what I see on the pitch. As you said, Cleverley is proven because he has played for Man United and also in the Champions League, same goes for Anderson who has more appearances. Let me guess, your next answer is another insult? Yeah, both those players are proven. What is hard to understand about this? Do you know what proven means? Proven to be able to play football? - Yes. Proven enough they can come into our team and make the BIG difference we need? - No. Simply they have never shone, never given a glimpse of quality. I guess we are both right, but you are looking at it as though appearances = good enough, I am looking at it as though I have never seen enough from the player to suggest he will make those key differences we need. Edited August 28, 2014 by dodgyknees 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Wonder what wages he'd be on? Ask all the accountants on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) Oh god no. He's not very good and why would we spend 8 million on a player that wouldn't really improve us? If we have that money to spend, spend it elsewhere (Proper CAM/striker/winger) Edited August 28, 2014 by StefanAVFC 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGrath1874 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Really hope this doesn't mean an agreement that Vlaar is going their way :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packoman Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Hull need a striker, why spend the Long money on a CM. Is Bruce doing a Lambert? Aren't they getting Abel Hernandez from Palermo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Difficult to evaluate the value of players in this current window. Are we overspending if everyone else is overspending? £12m to sign 2 reasonably young international central midfielders seems like good business to me (Sanchez). I also agree about the Holtby scepticism. There was a time when Cleverly looked like a mainstay of the United team, a team that walzed to the title. Holtby has never even been able to hold down a place in the Spurs team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Premier LEague, Champions League experience, played for his country. Dont understand how people think this is a bad move. Do they not remember our midfield options from last few seasons the Ireland, Sylla, Bannan and Herd etc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmarsha_926 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 From this for Lambert's first game to this if Cleverly signs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Risso Posted August 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2014 Could dodgyknees and rodders please give the quote pyramid a miss please. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I hope Vlaar isn't included in a deal here. No way, if Vlaar was part of the deal no way would we be paying £8m. They should be paying us and throwing Cleverly in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 From this for Lambert's first game to this if Cleverly signs Will certainly be interesting to see how this works. I'd like Grealish to take over from N'Zogbia as the season goes on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 If he comes at the expense of Vlaar, I'm jumping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 to this if Cleverly signs Benteke will never get the ball. N'Zogbia will run into to defenders, Cleverley is anything but creative, more sideways. This is why I feel this deal makes little sense for the price quoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 A player I've often mocked but wouldn't be averse to us signing him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 He's awful, 8 million for him? Surely we can find someone better for that sort of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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