VillanousOne Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 sometimes even the most basic of tools can be used well in the right hands 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 1 minute ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Which IMO makes him pretty useless. If that is the midfield we'll play next season, yes. Hopefully it isn't. I rather keep Gana and let Westy and Sanchez go, but we'll have to wait and see what Di Matteo does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AntrimBlack Posted June 18, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2016 Westwood is the real weak link. Gana may possibly move on. We should play Sanchez in his anchor role, and push Veretout forward, in the position where he played really well in Ligue 1. We have just never got the best from some of our players 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hoof hearted Posted June 18, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2016 1 minute ago, AntrimBlack said: Westwood is the real weak link. Gana may possibly move on. We should play Sanchez in his anchor role, and push Veretout forward, in the position where he played really well in Ligue 1. We have just never got the best from some of our players I think it is a case of players not being played in their best positions, Guzan, for instance, should be opening the batting for Warwickshire 3rds! ¬_¬ 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Well had a quick look at some online reports and ratings of the game and can find nothing that suggests Sanchez was 'monstrous' in the slightest. Seemed to be rated average. I dare say in the right formation he could do a job but if he was any good he wouldn't have spent a career at rubbish teams would he? I can only judge him on his Villa performances and in the main, he has been dogshit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 He's just too limited, there's no sense having players who can seemingly only perform if they are played in their precise position. As soon as we deviate from his ideal formation he goes to utter shit, he's just not flexible enough. Modern midfielders are just too specialised, it's crazy that nowadays you have central midfielders who can only play in a 3, it's ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 It's all well and good saying just do one job (I don't even think he's that good at it) but we need players to be better than that in central midfield. Sanchez is not good enough to try and accommodate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, Butterfingers said: my feeling is that at some point you must draw a line under certain players and just say "this isn't working" This is an excellent point and I think could be said of many of the players. I look at our midfielders, Sanchez, Westwood, Gana, Veretout and at a push I could probably put an argument together for all of them as to why they should stay and may come good. However the bottom line is that those players comfortably made up the worst midfield I can remember in my time following us. It offered no protection to the defence, it offered no creativity, it offered no goal threat, it was poor at closing down the opposing sides midfield and had poor ball retention. It was dire. Gana was possibly the stand out player within it but I wouldn't give him any more than 5/10 based on what he produced overall. Maybe last season is still too fresh in the memory for me and maybe I am overplaying how tough next season will be but I think if this club is to have any hope of moving forwards quickly then the squad needs a major overhaul and as butteringers said above we have to draw the line under a number of players and say this isn't working and move them on. Edited June 18, 2016 by markavfc40 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 3 hours ago, Hoof hearted said: I think it is a case of players not being played in their best positions, Guzan, for instance, should be opening the batting for Warwickshire 3rds! ¬_¬ he be a dreadful wicketkeeper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 File next to Clark. Mistake or 5 in him in every game, regardless of the occasion or level. **** him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 "The Rock" Yeah right i bet Nicholas Cage is ashamed to be associated with this guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 2 hours ago, AshVilla said: "The Rock" Yeah right i bet Nicholas Cage is ashamed to be associated with this guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rodders0223 Posted June 19, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2016 11 hours ago, AntrimBlack said: Westwood is the real weak link. Gana may possibly move on. We should play Sanchez in his anchor role, and push Veretout forward, in the position where he played really well in Ligue 1. We have just never got the best from some of our players Have you not watched him in a Villa shirt he past 2 years? Have you not witnessed his headless chicken ball chasing, his constant lapses in concentration, his abysmal discipline tactically, his total lack of awareness, or desire to get back and defend. Playing him in the anchor role, where he drops in to pick up the ball then produce a totally wreckless pass in our final 3rd. If I was going to play the 'rock' it would be as far away from the defence as humanly possible. I would rather see him upfront than be the absolute bomb scare by our defence. I say this wihout any hyperbole, he has to be one of the most useless, thickest footballers I have ever seen. Just watch him, forget the game and watch him. He is utterly oblivious to any opposition player around him. Just ball watching the whole game in his own world. If he was 21 I would say it is too late to teach him, at 30 I find it unbelievable he is as bad as he is. Looking at his CV it is not hard to see why at 29 he was playing at the level he was before we bought him. Abysmal buy. Abysmal player. Please get rid, he makes me angry just looking at him. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 10 hours ago, rodders0223 said: Have you not watched him in a Villa shirt he past 2 years? Have you not witnessed his headless chicken ball chasing, his constant lapses in concentration, his abysmal discipline tactically, his total lack of awareness, or desire to get back and defend. Playing him in the anchor role, where he drops in to pick up the ball then produce a totally wreckless pass in our final 3rd. If I was going to play the 'rock' it would be as far away from the defence as humanly possible. I would rather see him upfront than be the absolute bomb scare by our defence. I say this wihout any hyperbole, he has to be one of the most useless, thickest footballers I have ever seen. Just watch him, forget the game and watch him. He is utterly oblivious to any opposition player around him. Just ball watching the whole game in his own world. If he was 21 I would say it is too late to teach him, at 30 I find it unbelievable he is as bad as he is. Looking at his CV it is not hard to see why at 29 he was playing at the level he was before we bought him. Abysmal buy. Abysmal player. Please get rid, he makes me angry just looking at him. You feel quite strongly about him, then!! Don't get me wrong, although I feel we have not brought out the best in some of our players, there are none of them I would be distraught about losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) Average footballer, but quite a nifty dancer if you care to view the Colombian post match dressing room video on the internet Here it is Edited June 19, 2016 by StewieGriffin Found the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MellbergsBeard Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 I remember one of his first passes, when he came on as a sub and I thought we have got a right player on our hands hear. I was wrong, would have been nice to have another Colombian fan favourite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 9 minutes ago, MellbergsBeard said: I remember one of his first passes, when he came on as a sub and I thought we have got a right player on our hands hear. I was wrong, would have been nice to have another Colombian fan favourite. Exactly what happened with me, that Xavi esque pass. I had alot of patience for him and still like him as a person, however he has been absolute tripe! Proper embarrassing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 On 18 June 2016 at 16:32, markavfc40 said: I look at our midfielders, Sanchez, Westwood, Gana, Veretout and at a push I could probably put an argument together for all of them as to why they should stay and may come good. However the bottom line is that those players comfortably made up the worst midfield I can remember in my time following us. It offered no protection to the defence, it offered no creativity, it offered no goal threat, it was poor at closing down the opposing sides midfield and had poor ball retention. It was dire. We tried all combinations, and none of them worked, the conclusion must be clear out and start again. I can only really agree it's worth keeping Gana and Vertout for potential. Never seen Sanchez play convincingly in our shirt, he always seems stoned or distracted to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 On 18 June 2016 at 10:52, DCJonah said: As a player I hate him. And part of the reason is constantly hearing about how good he is for Columbia. Who cares? He's been nothing short of an embarrassment for most of his time here. Terrible player in this country. Paradoxically you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 20, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 20, 2016 Hope he plays a Blinder, totally dominates the copa America and single handedly wins the final. Anything that puts a couple of mill on his sale price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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