StefanAVFC Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I can't see anyone making excuses. He should be better and I'm worried he'll never be good enough, but it's a perfectly valid reason to wait and see how he does next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 how will you know if a player will adapt when you buy him. Ozil, Shevchenko, Veron cost 10 times more than Sanchez and they struggle to adapt. Then people forget Angel, Petrov hardly set the world alight straightaway I just think it's a bit of a piss poor excuse tbh. Priceless that These bloody foreigners, coming over hear, taking their time to 'adapt' - ship em out I say! Months down the line it is a piss poor excuse. Sanchez is months down the line, almost a year. I can't see anyone making excuses. He should be better and I'm worried he'll never be good enough, but it's a perfectly valid reason to wait and see how he does next season. The original post I quoted made the excuse of needing time to adapt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 He's now working for a different manager and being trained by a different set of coaches. I'n interested to see how he looks after a full pre-season of intense training with Tim and his coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 (edited) It depends on the individual case as some players clearly just don't possess the ability at this level, somebody like Holman being an example of that. With Sánchez though, the majority of current faults can be attributed to misjudging the pace and intensity of this league. He continues to believe he has more time on the ball then he actually does have. There was a moment in the first-half yesterday where he received the ball near the halfway line after a sloppy City pass, took a couple of touches and only at the last moment did he realise that a City player (Fernando I think) was about to close him down - prompting him to brashly and aimlessly poke the ball forward. Same goes for some of the silly fouls where he simply mistimes them. That's not to excuse every error on that basis, as a few of them have just been unforgivable whichever way you look at it. My point was more though that I feel his has demonstrated in glimpses that he can be a decent player. He isn't inherently a poor passer/technical player. Nor does he lack overall defensive awareness. Adapting to our league in particular can be difficult enough but it's been compounded with Sánchez when you consider that he literally didn't have any sort of preseason. Not to mention that their has been no consistant system at the club either with Lambert's change to the 'new style' about a third of the way through the season and then Sherwood coming in with his high-intensity approach. I've seen enough from Sánchez to suggest he can become a consistantly solid player. If of course he continues in the same manner next season then I'll revise my position. Edited April 26, 2015 by Isa 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I'm willing to give him another chance next season before writing him off but it gets harder by the game to have faith in him as he just turns to shit in the second half of games. Hopefully it's a fitness thing and he will be more upto speed next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 26, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted April 26, 2015 Didn't have a great game but took his goal well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Good finish and loved how happy he was when he scored... ...however, he pretty much cost us the 2nd and 3rd goals and was poor all round other than the goal. Just so far off the pace it's unreal. I don't get what Sherwood is seeing that I'm not when he decides to keep him on all game. His legs are shot after about 50 minutes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 27, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted April 27, 2015 He's prone to a rash, senseless tackle. And they've cost us a few times this season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 He's prone to a rash, senseless tackle. And they've cost us a few times this season! But even before the tackle, he completely underhits a relatively easy ball down the line for Cleverley. This turns over possession and he then jumps in for the rashness. Awful play all round! I like the guy, but he needs to cut this stuff out. As others have said, I think there is a decent footballer in there... I'd just rather not see him starting for us until his game is up to par. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Must be me but apart from one moment I thought he had a decent game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) I like him, he just needs to cut out the awkward passes that go straight to the opposition in vulnerable areas. no issues with the tackles as he gets most of them right Edited April 27, 2015 by VillanousOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Yeah, tackling is his strong point for sure. Everything else is missing right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myko Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I'd argue that his passing is actually really good, most of the time. He plays some quality pings which very few other players in the squad are capable of. However, just needs to cut out the panicky passes to the opposition and occasional Barry Bannan attempted Hollywood cross field balls. I actually really rate him, however I think I might be one of the minority. One of the best midfield tacklers the club has had in a long long time IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 he is like the curates egg.....good in parts. however, he needs to cut out the individual errors. most players would have skied that goal....kept it down very well. B,ham mail gave him MOTM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 B,ham mail gave him MOTM.Its quite amusing how people see the game so differently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Id give him another season - but I would limit his involvement for the remainder of this, he is just to much of a liability - gives away needless free kicks in dangerous areas....caught in possesion .....anyone of those could cost us dearly .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 B,ham mail gave him MOTM. Its quite amusing how people see the game so differently. And how shocking B'ham Mail is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 he is a brilliant player 90% of the time.. however he has that 10% in every game where he goes absolutely bat shit crazy. His passing according to Bmail is 83% and better than Westwoods and similar to Delph/Cleverley. Its just when Sanchez loses the ball its usually near our own half and its a really really bad loss of concentration causing a massive looking error that undermines his performances. I have noticed they are usually late on in the game. So maybe he is not ready to play 90 minutes just yet. I think next season with a gilletine pre season with Tim he will be alot better next season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 I have to say, I like him....but then saying that I'm looking at all the positive sides of his game. I am not in any way dismissing the negative comments, because frustratingly he does make some rickets.....IF he can eradicate these annoying/worrying misjudgments out of his game we will have a good player on our hands IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Today it looked like he was a midfielder when we had possession, but played as a third centre back when we lost the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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