Mic09 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Don't think the problem was ever really how often he gave the ball away, but where and the manner of how he did it. I think the two are rather highly correlated problems... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 How so? If he has a 98% pass accuracy but the one pass he gives away is due to him being lax in our defensive third and resulting in a goal/great chance to the opposition this is a problem, whilst the one pass being an attempted eye-of-the-needle pass to a striker in the opposition third resulting in no harm done is not. Apologises if I've completely misread your point, I've had a few beers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippers Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 So he's basically 31. Get rid! Didn't he just have a birthday, turning 27? Or was it that Sherwood never plays him? Or is it that Liverpool want him, but not for his release clause, but they are crap. Or is it that sliced kick against Man City? Or that good things don't happen to us? I get a little confused with all the regular VT convos DHUTWU! Excuse my ignorance but DHUTWU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Keep your innocence for as long as you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippers Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Keep your innocence for as long as you can. I lost my innocence a long time ago. Can't remember the girls name but my word she was noisy. Anyway, back OT, Sanchez banned for tomorrow's quarter final, back for the semi if they get there, fingers crossed he still has some game time before heading back to B6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunkyluke Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Don't think the problem was ever really how often he gave the ball away, but where and the manner of how he did it. I think the two are rather highly correlated problems... This is part and parcel of the position though isn't it. I mean let's say Benteke fluffs a pass a to Zog, the opposition defence pick it up and build and attack but from there half. Now Sanchez fluffs his pass to Delph and suddenly their centre forward is barrelling down towards Vlaar( who is probably think how best he can wait for him to get into the box and then give away a penalty!) In his area of the park any miscued passes result in direct pressure on our defence. So these errors are more costly and stand out more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Don't think the problem was ever really how often he gave the ball away, but where and the manner of how he did it.I think the two are rather highly correlated problems... This is part and parcel of the position though isn't it. I mean let's say Benteke fluffs a pass a to Zog, the opposition defence pick it up and build and attack but from there half. Now Sanchez fluffs his pass to Delph and suddenly their centre forward is barrelling down towards Vlaar( who is probably think how best he can wait for him to get into the box and then give away a penalty!) In his area of the park any miscued passes result in direct pressure on our defence. So these errors are more costly and stand out more. Which is why in these positions you need to train it out of your game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electronicmaji Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 I just want to **** point out I said Ospina is available but everyone told me Guzan was better. Feck off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myko Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Guzan over Ospina all day long for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 I just want to **** point out I said Ospina is available but everyone told me Guzan was better. Feck off. Ha, I've just posted that suggestion in the transfer thread, Ospina at 4m will be a great pick up for anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Ospina was amazing in that game against Argentina. I'd like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoD Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I'd be very happy with Ospina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Goodness, yes, he'd be a big upgrade. Think he's off to Turkey though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Sign Ospina up I say, bring back Angel and let's finally sign Grisales! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Mario Yepes too old now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Field Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 people may not like him, but he his probably the best ball winner I have ever seen, the problem is he seems to dilly dally to much with the ball. If anyone watched copa america you will have seen how good he can be (he has at least twice marked messi out of the game and neymar several times), he just needs someone that seeks the ball from him all the time (James with Colombia).. One of the best if not the best ball winner in the world, just horrible in possession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) I think some of his problem is the players around him not making themselves available. I also think that is a general problem why all our players get caught on the ball.....because the off the ball work is not sophisticated enough.They have to Keep searching for an outlet as opposed to one being at hand. Sadly, our players are not great game readers. Edited July 12, 2015 by TRO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dante_Lockhart Posted July 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2015 Said the same about Makoun. He was light years ahead of the rest of the squad in terms of reading the game. It's why he looked crap, no one around him was up to speed like he was 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ermie123 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 He is no different to Delph on giving the ball away in important areas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) How so? If he has a 98% pass accuracy but the one pass he gives away is due to him being lax in our defensive third and resulting in a goal/great chance to the opposition this is a problem, whilst the one pass being an attempted eye-of-the-needle pass to a striker in the opposition third resulting in no harm done is not. Apologises if I've completely misread your point, I've had a few beers. Wouldn't that be similar to saying "Benteke missed 5 penalties in one game, but scored the 6th, he had a 100 percent scoring accuracy", both are true but still equally shite given the circumstances. Edited July 13, 2015 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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