villaajax Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 If Colombia had won, would we be hearing so much about the fouling on VT? Yawn. Hopefully Robben breaks a fingernail when he next dives. Weren't you one of those hoping Robben would get a serious injury the other day? disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Football has become almost an unbearably non-contact affair for the most part so I actually found last night a good watch, there's nothing like a bit of tactical fouling, malice and the old 'reducer'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Football has become almost an unbearably non-contact affair for the most part so I actually found last night a good watch, there's nothing like a bit of tactical fouling, malice and the old 'reducer'. You do go a bit over the top though. Still time left for a Mexican to cripple Robben, let's hope it happens. Me too, I'd love to see one of his legs get snapped in half, he is a despicable word removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Nobody should want a player to be seriously hurt no matter what they think of them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Football has become almost an unbearably non-contact affair for the most part so I actually found last night a good watch, there's nothing like a bit of tactical fouling, malice and the old 'reducer'. Really? Each to their own but I thought last night was a terrible game. It was so stop-start it just completely ruined the flow. The referee had no control over it and players were getting away with all kinds of stupid fouls and dangerous challenges. There's definitely an argument to be made for football not allowing enough contact nowadays, but I don't think last night's match is a particularly good piece of evidence for that claim. The referee should have put his foot down a lot earlier, then maybe we'd actually have had some flow to the game and a decent match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Nobody should want a player to be seriously hurt no matter what they think of them. Not even Suarez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 or Barton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Without looking at their squad, I don't have a clue who Brazil's back up CB is. Got to think with those two missing , Germany will win although they might need extra time. Germany can't keep bottling semi finals forever can they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Without looking at their squad, I don't have a clue who Brazil's back up CB is. Got to think with those two missing , Germany will win although they might need extra time. Germany can't keep bottling semi finals forever can they? Should put Fred at CB, no goals are scored when he's near the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted July 5, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted July 5, 2014 (edited) edit: arse, wrong thread Edited July 5, 2014 by Tegis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisagg75 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 seeing costa rica here just shows to me why woy should lose his job. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyPowers Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 I hate this business of players initiating contact to draw fouls and I hate this business of players 'accepting' their own fouls by going down when they feel contact (effectively refereeing the game themselves). Sadly, this is endemic in Spanish football and judging by the Brazil-Colombia in South American football too. It should be fairly simple to solve. Just get the authorities to put an emphasis on: 1. Football is a contact sport. A touch is not a foul. 2. Play to the whistle. The referee is in charge. 3. Keep your mouth shut. Save your energy for running, not whining. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Without looking at their squad, I don't have a clue who Brazil's back up CB is. Got to think with those two missing , Germany will win although they might need extra time. Germany can't keep bottling semi finals forever can they? Dante from Bayern Munich although Henrique from Napoli is another option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Ah would imagine it will be Dante given he trains against a few of the german attackers so will know their games inside out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) BRAZIL REAPED WHAT IT HAD SOWN By Tim Vickery After the cruel injury that keeps Neymar out of the rest of the World Cup, Brazil has become a country in mourning – and also a country in denial. Camilo Zuniga, the Colombian right back whose ill judged lunge caused Neymar's injury, has become public enemy number one. As I write, Brazil's most famous football commentator has just described it as one of the most violent moments in the history of the game. The Brazilian FA is in the process of asking FIFA to give Zuniga a huge ban. At this time, with the poster boy out of action, reality has been thrown out of the window. Saturday's edition of 'Lance!' – Brazil's usually excellent sports daily – makes a sole passing reference to the wider context. "Curiously," says one article, "Brazil committed more fouls than Colombia – 31 against 23." This fact is presented as if it were some statistical quirk. But really it is part of a plan. It is all very well for Brazil coach Luiz Felipe Scolari to complain that Neymar was being hunted on the field. The hunting started from his side. This is an unfortunate part of the contemporary Brazilian game. It is called tactical fouling. Its aim is to prevent the opposition gaining any fluency in possession by repeatedly interrupting the game with fouls. I well recall being in the stadium for the final of the 2007 Copa America. Brazil, with an understrength side, pulled off a surprise by beating Argentina 3-0. It was a clinical counter-attacking triumph. But, up against a team with the likes of Riquelme, Veron and a young Lionel Messi, Brazil opened up its tool box and committed around 45 fouls. Last year's Confederations Cup final against Spain was another resounding 3-0 win for Brazil, with some superb Neymar moments along the way. But the Spanish were entitled to a little grumble about the persistent fouling by their opponent – Brazil committed 26 fouls in that game, five fewer than its total against Colombia. If any player was hunted on the field at Fortaleza last Saturday (AEST) it was the number ten of Colombia, James Rodriguez. Again and again he was on the end of vicious fouls from Brazil midfielder Fernandinho, who appeared to be acting to a plan to intimidate his opponent out of the game. And the referee did nothing. The danger signs were there in Brazil's previous match against Chile. Right at the start Fernandinho flew into a late tackle. It was a clear yellow card. None was awarded. This leniency has been so prevalent that we can only assume the referees are acting on some kind of FIFA directive. It would seem that the world governing body, understandably, does not want to see too many players suspended, which might devalue its showpiece competition. Even Lionel Messi has been fortunate to escape punishment for the occasional petulant challenge or reaction. This style of refereeing is very dangerous in a game involving two South American sides. After Fernandinho had got away with his bad tackle against Chile, it was clear that Chile would react. If Brazil was going to have a free one, then so would Chile – and it was also clear who the victim would be. Charles Aranguiz slid in with a tackle on Neymar which reduced the effectiveness of the young Brazilian in the match and briefly threatened his participation against Colombia. In other words, Brazil had received a warning – do not go out to hunt lest you be hunted. It did not heed that warning. It tried to kick James Rodriguez out of the game, and the outcome is that Neymar has been kicked out of the World Cup. It is very sad for him, for his team and for the tournament. But the sad, and surely unavoidable truth is that Brazil is reaping what it has sown – and as a proud owner of 1982 Brazil shirt, that is a desperately despondent sentence to be forced to write. Edited July 7, 2014 by Ghost 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted July 7, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted July 7, 2014 Glad you posted that - I was about to do the same. I think he's spot on in that article. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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