darrenm Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Horrible Soz Bri 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 So sorry to hear that, terrible just terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Sorry to hear that, terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted January 10, 2017 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, BOF said: 'Winds me up' is one way of putting it. My mother died almost 2 years ago. My mother and sister were very very close. Like in each other's pocket every day close. So when my mother died, my sister was completely lost. She was very impressionable, depressed and directionless. In her desperation she went to one of these psychics who told her that our mother was very happy in a good place, and that she was looking down on us and that she really missed us and was now waiting for us. Not one month later my sister committed suicide 'to be with her mother'. I consider that psychic to be at least a part of why my sister did what she did. She had been considering doing it, but to hear what she heard from someone who she must have had some amount of trust in; it's not unreasonable to suggest this person gave her the scenario she was looking for (re-united and happy) and sent her down that path. That's why these people are not just some fairground curiosity. When they're talking into the wrong ear (usually an impressionable one) they are proper **** dangerous and can have real-world consequences. Exactly the reason why I share the opinion that these people are scumbags. Sorry to hear it Bri. I knew about your mother and sister, but didn't realise this kind of thing contributed. I'll use your story the next time a family member wonders why I'm so angry when the subject of "psychics" comes up. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 16 minutes ago, BOF said: 'Winds me up' is one way of putting it. My mother died almost 2 years ago. My mother and sister were very very close. Like in each other's pocket every day close. So when my mother died, my sister was completely lost. She was very impressionable, depressed and directionless. In her desperation she went to one of these psychics who told her that our mother was very happy in a good place, and that she was looking down on us and that she really missed us and was now waiting for us. Not one month later my sister committed suicide 'to be with her mother'. I consider that psychic to be at least a part of why my sister did what she did. She had been considering doing it, but to hear what she heard from someone who she must have had some amount of trust in; it's not unreasonable to suggest this person gave her the scenario she was looking for (re-united and happy) and sent her down that path. That's why these people are not just some fairground curiosity. When they're talking into the wrong ear (usually an impressionable one) they are proper **** dangerous and can have real-world consequences. An impossible post to 'like', but very well written and makes an extremely important point. Sorry for the loss, that must have been devastating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 11 minutes ago, BOF said: 'Winds me up' is one way of putting it. My mother died almost 2 years ago. My mother and sister were very very close. Like in each other's pocket every day close. So when my mother died, my sister was completely lost. She was very impressionable, depressed and directionless. In her desperation she went to one of these psychics who told her that our mother was very happy in a good place, and that she was looking down on us and that she really missed us and was now waiting for us. Not one month later my sister committed suicide 'to be with her mother'. I consider that psychic to be at least a part of why my sister did what she did. She had been considering doing it, but to hear what she heard from someone who she must have had some amount of trust in; it's not unreasonable to suggest this person gave her the scenario she was looking for (re-united and happy) and sent her down that path. That's why these people are not just some fairground curiosity. When they're talking into the wrong ear (usually an impressionable one) they are proper **** dangerous and can have real-world consequences. I'm truly sorry for your tragic loss. This is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about, and although “winds me up” isn’t near strong enough for the scenario you’ve described, I hope you see that I fully agree with you appraisal of psychics as being dangerous. Thanks for sharing your story mate, it must be hard to tell people what happened. It’s stories like this that will hopefully educate those susceptible to the kind of nonsense psychics pedal, and hopefully help stop things like the awful thing that happened to you, happening to others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 @BOF I don't normally respond to stuff that's a bit down for fear of typing the wrong thing or being glib or whatever, but that sucks. Horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 10, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2017 @BOF, really sorry to hear that mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I feel a bit of a shit for bumping the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 My piss is well and truly boiled after having read Brian's post . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOF Posted January 10, 2017 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2017 Thank you everyone for the messages, but I posted that story more as a warning and as a very real example of what those people are, even if they don't intend those consequences. Yes I think most of us are on the same page when it comes to clairvoyants or whatever they wish to call themselves. My point was do not trivialise or marginalise these people as it allowed them to operate unchallenged. The fact that they exist means there are enough people out there who do believe in it. What they do isn't harmless. It isn't a bit of fun and it isn't merely comforting someone even if that's the intention. They are con artists. They prey on the weak. They prey on people who pay to hear confirmation bias. Their trick is finding out what that message needs to be. Oh and to lighten it up slightly and get back more on topic, no I don't believe in ghosts or ghoulies or in anything supernatural 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOF Posted January 10, 2017 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2017 41 minutes ago, Paddywhack said: I feel a bit of a shit for bumping the thread. You're an absolute monster 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 **** hell Brian sorry mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 13 minutes ago, BOF said: Thank you everyone for the messages, but I posted that story more as a warning and as a very real example of what those people are, even if they don't intend those consequences. Yes I think most of us are on the same page when it comes to clairvoyants or whatever they wish to call themselves. My point was do not trivialise or marginalise these people as it allowed them to operate unchallenged. The fact that they exist means there are enough people out there who do believe in it. What they do isn't harmless. It isn't a bit of fun and it isn't merely comforting someone even if that's the intention. They are con artists. They prey on the weak. They prey on people who pay to hear confirmation bias. Their trick is finding out what that message needs to be. Oh and to lighten it up slightly and get back more on topic, no I don't believe in ghosts or ghoulies or in anything supernatural Don't worry , I'm gonna slap the first cyclist , psychiatrist or sidekick I see . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 @BOF that is gut wrenching Brian. Really feel for you mate. Stay strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RimmyJimmer Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 A few years ago my brother was splitting from his wife and kids and was in quite a mess emotionally. Suffering from acute anxiety brought on by the thought of not living or seeing his daughter everyday. He was really vulnerable and I was constantly worried about him and checking up on him. One day he tells me that he did a stress test off somebody who collared him walking in the centre of brum. Obviously he was off the scale. He then went to meet someone who apparently could help him. Anyway, the short story is, these people were scientologists, and part of his treatment would be counselling other people with emotional problems!!! He was also asked to make contributions toward there funds. Luckily, my brother saw all this for what it was, and he also had his family around him to steer him in the right direction. Now, people can believe in whatever they like, and if it helps them through the ups and downs of life then thats fine. What really upsets me, and makes my blood boil, is people preaching their shit to troubled souls, who, quite obviously in the case of my brother, needed a doctor, medication and professional counselling. Sorry for your loss BOF 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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