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20 minutes ago, Big Salad said:

Yesterday, I was offered a leadership position at a new mental health facility making almost 10 grand more a year than I am making now. While of course I am flattered and proud of myself for being offered this, the only issue is that I live in North Carolina and this new facility is clear across the country in Washington state(Spokane).  A big decision to make for sure(They want a decision by the 20th of this month).  A lot's of pro's and con's need to be looked at: Some of the pro's are of course the additional money, being closer to my dad, etc. But then some of the con's are being away from all my other family and friends, not knowing anybody, additional money yes but I am sure cost of living is more, etc.

Gonna put a lot of thought into it and make the best decision.  Again is great that even thought of this position and we shall see.

I feel like I’d need a pay increase to be a life changing amount to make me move that far away. I’m talking, an amount that would see me able to live my life significantly more comfortably, whether that be through a better property/ generally better lifestyle etc. In GB terms I think I’d need it to be, maybe, 30k+ more, for example.

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My mate has just got a new job at Coinbase (crypto currency wallet, for those that don’t know). He doesn’t like the difficult targets at our current place (and tbf, if I was in his role, I wouldn’t like it either. It sounds very tough). He applied for this role a few months back and has got the job.

The role sounds very well compensated. He’s currently a grade below me, and on around 7-8k less, but at Coinbase he will be essentially side-stepping into the same role he does currently, but he’ll be getting a 15k payrise, plus £10,000 of Coinbase shares every year, plus a monthly £90 ‘working from home’ allowance, plus a monthly £50 ‘wellness’ allowance (ie: gym membership etc) to spend (or not) on whatever you want, plus it’s completely remote working, so no office at all.

It all sounds too good to be true!

On the one hand, as they seemingly don’t have/need a local office, the money the company saves on that, they seem to be happy to throw at staff. On the other hand, crypto currency is very volatile, and I would be pretty concerned for my job security if I worked there, as a crash in the market could affect their business drastically, and I feel like all of the remote workers would be the first ones to get the can if they needed to reduce numbers.

Anyway, I’m curious to see how he gets on there and if the targets and workload are bad, and if they’re not, I may be tempted to have a look there!

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46 minutes ago, Xela said:

I know where you are coming from. I think the pandemic has realigned a lot of peoples views on things, including work. I'd probably like to get up one more grade but I won't sweat it. Anything higher than that and the pressure can be immense. I saw a good friend become a husk of his former self because of a few quick promotions took him into a very senior role. He's ok now and changed roles but its not for everyone and its for me. 

I've been working full time since I was 18. I've done 24 years in full time work and while that isn't out of the ordinary, I've made it my aim, my goal, to have the option of being out of full time employment in 10 years time, at the age of 52. It sounds a long time in the future, 120 months... but we're 16 months into covid and its gone in the blink of an eye. I'm not saying I want to fully retire at 52, but I want options at that point... maybe going part time or working at Starbucks or something. I think the phrase is "f*ck you" money... having enough that you don't need to work, but choose to do so and if you get fed up with it, you can just leave without worrying about money or how you are going to pay the bills. 

 

 

Yeah, I always thought I'd go at least one rung higher up but seeing what my wife deals with being at that grade I'm good where I am. 

The pay bands basically overlap (especially with tax implications) so there's hardly any real bump until you've been in role a long time or done a few lateral moves. 

Completely agree about trying to get out earlier than the norm but then getting something just to keep me busy and have some money coming in still. After seeing the deterioration in a few family members after they'd retired I'm going to want something to keep my brain active. Maybe not working in a customer facing role though based off the comments on here about the abuse you get being a waiter etc. 

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We took someone on as a basic drawing technician. Proper full time paid role, none of this intern / apprentice stuff. They were supposed to start a week ago, but then asked if they could start this week instead, which we agreed to.

Turned up Monday, appeared to be a normal newbie starter, all ok. Turned up Tuesday, lunchtime asked to go home as they were feeling unwell. Which obviously we agreed to. An hour later we received an email saying they wouldn’t be coming back, they were having a think about their lifestyle choices.

Lifestyle choices, eh. When I were a lad…

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

We took someone on as a basic drawing technician. Proper full time paid role, none of this intern / apprentice stuff. They were supposed to start a week ago, but then asked if they could start this week instead, which we agreed to.

Turned up Monday, appeared to be a normal newbie starter, all ok. Turned up Tuesday, lunchtime asked to go home as they were feeling unwell. Which obviously we agreed to. An hour later we received an email saying they wouldn’t be coming back, they were having a think about their lifestyle choices.

Lifestyle choices, eh. When I were a lad…

 

 

 

Probably realised wouldn’t be able to afford a new house and a new car so what’s the point?

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24 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

We took someone on as a basic drawing technician. Proper full time paid role, none of this intern / apprentice stuff. They were supposed to start a week ago, but then asked if they could start this week instead, which we agreed to.

Turned up Monday, appeared to be a normal newbie starter, all ok. Turned up Tuesday, lunchtime asked to go home as they were feeling unwell. Which obviously we agreed to. An hour later we received an email saying they wouldn’t be coming back, they were having a think about their lifestyle choices.

Lifestyle choices, eh. When I were a lad…

 

 

 

You bloody hazing new starters again? You have been told about this. 

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The building trade is suffering. Doesn’t seem to be much fresh blood coming through. I know it’s harder to get a start on site nowadays, but most of them don’t seem to have the backbone for it. It’s mostly shit money to start with but most of us started off on shit money. All we worked for was to pay our board and get beer tokens. Which brings me onto the pub scene, and same again, a lot of youngsters seem to not be arsed about going pubs anymore. Pubs are not what they were admittedly. 

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22 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said:

The building trade is suffering. Doesn’t seem to be much fresh blood coming through. I know it’s harder to get a start on site nowadays, but most of them don’t seem to have the backbone for it. It’s mostly shit money to start with but most of us started off on shit money. All we worked for was to pay our board and get beer tokens. Which brings me onto the pub scene, and same again, a lot of youngsters seem to not be arsed about going pubs anymore. Pubs are not what they were admittedly. 

It's the same in baking.  Nobody wants to do shitty unsociable hours and two of the Polish guys went back home because of Brexit.  Even finding delivery drivers is a pain in the arse.

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15 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said:

It's the same in baking.  Nobody wants to do shitty unsociable hours and two of the Polish guys went back home because of Brexit.  Even finding delivery drivers is a pain in the arse.

Just work in general isn’t it. 

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2 hours ago, chrisp65 said:

We took someone on as a basic drawing technician. Proper full time paid role, none of this intern / apprentice stuff. They were supposed to start a week ago, but then asked if they could start this week instead, which we agreed to.

Turned up Monday, appeared to be a normal newbie starter, all ok. Turned up Tuesday, lunchtime asked to go home as they were feeling unwell. Which obviously we agreed to. An hour later we received an email saying they wouldn’t be coming back, they were having a think about their lifestyle choices.

Lifestyle choices, eh. When I were a lad...

He must have seen you blatantly disregard the one way Covid plan in the office and decided he couldn't work with such loose cannons. 

 

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The last couple of weeks have been tough at work. Not the job itself, can do that with my eyes closed. Just finding it hard to concentrate and my productively is slipping. I'm always thinking "I'll do it tomorrow". Too much procrastinating. 

I think it's a combination of working from home for 17 months and not seeing people, combined with the fact I haven't used a single day of my 2021 holiday entitlement yet, and we're into the 8 month of the year. 

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1 hour ago, chrisp65 said:

Going through CV’s…

Previous Employment: I worked in my local fish and chip shop where I was in charge of customer queries.

 

"Have you got any battered sausages cooked?"

"Yes."

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29 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said:

I never updated this.

I went through the process, was offered the position and I start 1st November :) 

Saving all my likes for people who call Grealish a word removed, but well done mate :D 

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Looking like it'll be 1 day a week back in the office for me. Not fully confirmed yet, but those are the noises coming from the senior work ITKs 

Thats not too bad to be fair. I can live with that. 

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Covid really **** me up, I was ready to launch a biz and then of course this year happened. Anyway, I think it ended up working out on as I’ve rebranded what I had, wouldn’t mind hearing some thoughts. 

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Had our summer time team meeting today and confirmed that because we've proven it works over the last 15 months that for our core BAU activities we will be almost predominantly doing them remotely and not F2F. 

However we (and by we I mean all the middle aged women and contractors) then confirmed that we'll be heading back in to the office at least once a week and for virtually everything else (stuff like team meetings, 121s, catch ups etc) instead of WFH as this works better F2F. They literally said it was so they could network and have a gossip as part of the justification. 

If I can do my core activity from home why do I need to go in just to here gossip I have zero interest in. 

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17 hours ago, Rds1983 said:

Had our summer time team meeting today and confirmed that because we've proven it works over the last 15 months that for our core BAU activities we will be almost predominantly doing them remotely and not F2F. 

However we (and by we I mean all the middle aged women and contractors) then confirmed that we'll be heading back in to the office at least once a week and for virtually everything else (stuff like team meetings, 121s, catch ups etc) instead of WFH as this works better F2F. They literally said it was so they could network and have a gossip as part of the justification. 

If I can do my core activity from home why do I need to go in just to here gossip I have zero interest in. 

I get it.

I do think there's value in some human interaction. I personally can't wait to go back to the office max 2 times a week, i really miss it.

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