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Things wrong with our club?

The sizable minority of fans who crack under the slightest bit of pressure.

The sizable minority of fans who turn on our own players when the going gets tough.

The sizable minority of fans who make Villa Park a daunting place for their own team to play in.

The sizable minority of fans who love to talk our club down.

We're three points off eleventh spot, have five games left to play yet we have supporters among us actively want to throw in the towel. Do us all a favour and just don't bother turning up to Villa Park until next season you're sucking the life out of the players, your fellow supporters and ultimately our great club. Grow a backbone the lot of you or get season tickets elsewhere.

The biggest obstacle to us getting a win v Southampton won't be the ability of the players or the selection our manager picks on the day, it will be the atmosphere in the stadium and the mood of the fans. If Tonev plays, get behind him. If Gabby plays, get behind him. If Holt plays, get behind him. It's not rocket science. Lift the players out of this and support them.

Watch the Liverpool fans today, take a note out of Crystal Palace's support yesterday - positive backing helps. If you don't think you can do it or if your heart isn't in it simply stay away from Villa Park until next season.

The time to talk about the Chairman, the manager and so on is after the final whistle of the final game - until then get behind ASTON VILLA and help us to get as many points as we possibly can.

Yep, it is all the fans fault!

You are a much better fan than the sizeable minority.

 

Quite remarkable really that the fans can be blamed for making VP a daunting place for our own players to play.

 

As we have only won one game away from home (New Years Day) since our win at Southampton on 4th December perhaps those same fans have been making away grounds a daunting place for Villa players to play too!

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No way is it the fan's fault as it doesn't matter if we get behind the team aka Swansea at home we scored everyone was happy and then we still nearly lost the game!!  We pay good hard earned to watch footballers who are paid enormous amounts of money (yes ten grand a week is enormous), who cannot be bothered to play properly and that goes for the manager as well and the coaching staff!!!  It's a small wonder no one has reported them to trading standards for fraud!!!  

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Has this article been shared yet? Brilliant summery by someone who occasion frequents villatalk.

http://ow.ly/vx4v0

I agree with Chris a lot and that article is excellently written and largely spot on

 

However it does ignore the fact that football has not really changed over the years.  It is about the best players playing the best football,  that normally wins and has always won.

 

The thing that has changed is that you can no longer spot the unearthed gem and retain them in sufficient quantities to get a team of best players.  What you do this day and age to get and retain the best players is spend enormous amounts of money so that the teams with most money normally win more often and are more consistent at it.

 

So if you want this club to compete at the top end not in the mid to lower table mire then you need money,  and lots of it

 

Mid table board for a mid table club.  Said it years ago.

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we are Randy's Vietnam, at the start he comes in all guns blazing looking like he's going to get the job done, keeps the momentum going for a few years then bang, MON ups and leaves, that was Randy's Tet offensive when he realises that he isn't ever going to achieve the initial aim of the takeover so slowly at first he starts a strategic withdrawal, swopping highly trained players (yanks) for poorly trained and badly motivated ones (south Vietnamese) and he then looks on from America while we get over-run.

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Things wrong with our club?  

 

The sizable minority of fans who crack under the slightest bit of pressure.

The sizable minority of fans who turn on our own players when the going gets tough.

The sizable minority of fans who make Villa Park a daunting place for their own team to play in.

The sizable minority of fans who love to talk our club down.

 

We're three points off eleventh spot, have five games left to play yet we have supporters among us actively want to throw in the towel.   Do us all a favour and just don't bother turning up to Villa Park until next season you're sucking the life out of the players, your fellow supporters and ultimately our great club.  Grow a backbone the lot of you or get season tickets elsewhere.

 

The biggest obstacle to us getting a win v Southampton won't be the ability of the players or the selection our manager picks on the day, it will be the atmosphere in the stadium and the mood of the fans.  If Tonev plays, get behind him.  If Gabby plays, get behind him.  If Holt plays, get behind him.   It's not rocket science.  Lift the players out of this and support them.

 

Watch the Liverpool fans today, take a note out of Crystal Palace's support yesterday - positive backing helps.  If you don't think you can do it or if your heart isn't in it simply stay away from Villa Park until next season.

 

The time to talk about the Chairman, the manager and so on is after the final whistle of the final game - until then get behind ASTON VILLA and help us to get as many points as we possibly can.

 

The fans thing is a fallacy. If loud fans guaranteed success then why have Manchester United won the league 13 times in 20 years and why are Portsmouth just five points clear of relegation to the conference?   I don't dispute for a second that a good atmosphere at a stadium can inspire players sometimes but it's **** annoying when clubs (players and staff) can't seem to get their head around the fact that it is their job to give the fans something to sing about. 

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Easier topic would be 'Things Right With Our Club'

 

1. The Balti Pies.

 

The End.

 

the Pitch is always immaculate as well

 

 

It really is, we do have an excellent groundsperson. We'll definitely have the best kept pitch in the Championship. 

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...Football has not really changed over the years.  It is about the best players playing the best football,  that normally wins and has always won.

 

The thing that has changed is that you can no longer spot the unearthed gem and retain them in sufficient quantities to get a team of best players.  What you do this day and age to get and retain the best players is spend enormous amounts of money so that the teams with most money normally win more often and are more consistent at it.

 

So if you want this club to compete at the top end not in the mid to lower table mire then you need money,  and lots of it

 

Mid table board for a mid table club.  Said it years ago.

We might have had this discussion once or twice before, but while there's clearly a deal in that outlook, I don't think it's a kind of universal given. Of course money helps massively. Of course richer clubs can potentially come and nuy the better players from their rivals. But my opinion is that while less money may make the objective harder, it's not impossible, and isn't the only factor. There are always exceptions, from Dortmund, to (current favourite example) Everton. There's the current status of Man U.

While Euro Telly Cup money has much skewed things, it's still not beyond the realms of credible possibilioty for Villa, or a number of other clubs to be in and around the top 6 in the country. Winning the odd trophy and so on.

It's also my opinion that with a relatively less wealthy club, it's still possible to grow a club financially along with on the pitch. If you have a large city or surrounding catchment area for a fanbase, if you have a "name" and some background history, so the fanbase even in bad times persists, if you attract the right manager and right development staff, couple that with a decent sized stadium, you can prosper on and off the pitch.

It's clearly not an exact science, and trial and error is a part of it, and if you are newcomer to football, you'll make more wrong choices than right ones, to start with at least.

But if you have many of those factors on your side, you've a chance. There will be the opportunity to grow the club and get to where the large fanbase and all the rest wants you to go.

It's still, not yet, a completely closed off avenue. Not by a long way.

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Easier topic would be 'Things Right With Our Club'

1. The Balti Pies.

The End.

the Pitch is always immaculate as well

That actually is seriously good progress. I remember in the 90s it was a complete quagmire, virtually unfit for playing on after about November.
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