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Getting excluded from the Director's area is no big deal and no surprise. If you walk into someone's house and shit on their lounge carpet, then you can hardly be expected to be offered a seat and a cup of tea.

If that person charged you a large amount to come in and his house was shit do you not have the right to voice your opinion?

If I wasn't happy with the quality of food from tesco I doubt their chief exec would ban me for telling them.

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We'll see. If the manager is properly backed this summer - and that includes being able to sign players on Premiership wages - I will be able to accept the last few years (McLeish aside) as a necessary evil for us to build sustainably. No excuses though. If we're still shopping in bargain basement then Lerner, for me, has to go.

 

Agree with this completely. I have backed Lerner/Lambert in their stated intentions for the club, but as I have said before, if things do not change this summer, then my opinion is that one or both have to go.

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Based on this and what John Lerwill has said, the brass at VP behave like thugs, and it's very worrisome. The early days P.R. push was just smoke and mirrors designed to flatter and deflect any future criticism.

 

We are run by a group of inept thugs who are drunk with power.

 

Shameful state of affairs.

Howard Hodgson was socialising with these "thugs" only a few weeks ago, what has changed? Interesting.
What has changed ? Perhaps he got fed up of watching the shite being dished up down B6. It still looks Shite even if you're in a comfy seat in the directors box. He decided to ask the questions that need asking. Good on him.
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We'll see. If the manager is properly backed this summer - and that includes being able to sign players on Premiership wages - I will be able to accept the last few years (McLeish aside) as a necessary evil for us to build sustainably. No excuses though. If we're still shopping in bargain basement then Lerner, for me, has to go.

 

Agree with this completely. I have backed Lerner/Lambert in their stated intentions for the club, but as I have said before, if things do not change this summer, then my opinion is that one or both have to go.

 

 

What happens if we go down to the championship just as were about to start spending "premiership" money then? Everyone understands the cutbacks but not to the extent they've been done especially when the last two january's we've desperately needed lerner to pump some money in and back the manager he claims to have so much faith in and we got absolutely nothing.

 

I dont think thats the plan at all i think lerner wants us run like this for the foreseeable future until he sells up. Its all getting very similar to ellis's last year or so.

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Looks like HH wants a place on the board in the near future.

Why ? He's a fan like me and you expressing his concerns about the mismanagement of the club (think we'd all agree it's been a shambles for years).

He had a route into Faulkner and he used it. Nothing wrong with that

 

I agree. But it is hardly a "report" on the club, it does not reveal anything we did not already know and it does come across as arrogant with a lot of conjecture thrown in. Why not publish the letter he sent to Lerner?

 

 

It would be good to see that letter. Unfortunately Faulkner's response was verbal, so we only have Hodgson's version, and I doubt that Faulkner will get involved with this publicly.

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We'll see. If the manager is properly backed this summer - and that includes being able to sign players on Premiership wages - I will be able to accept the last few years (McLeish aside) as a necessary evil for us to build sustainably. No excuses though. If we're still shopping in bargain basement then Lerner, for me, has to go.

 

Agree with this completely. I have backed Lerner/Lambert in their stated intentions for the club, but as I have said before, if things do not change this summer, then my opinion is that one or both have to go.

 

You're lucky to have found a statement of intentions by Lambert and Lerner. Can you share it with us please.

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Getting excluded from the Director's area is no big deal and no surprise. If you walk into someone's house and shit on their lounge carpet, then you can hardly be expected to be offered a seat and a cup of tea.

If that person charged you a large amount to come in and his house was shit do you not have the right to voice your opinion?

If I wasn't happy with the quality of food from tesco I doubt their chief exec would ban me for telling them.

 

Sure you can have an opinion, but if you don't like it, f off, and take your large amount of money with you.

 

Fortunately for the Chief Exec of Tesco, he wouldn't have to look at your ugly face every time that you went shopping, so not a particularly good comparison.

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We'll see. If the manager is properly backed this summer - and that includes being able to sign players on Premiership wages - I will be able to accept the last few years (McLeish aside) as a necessary evil for us to build sustainably. No excuses though. If we're still shopping in bargain basement then Lerner, for me, has to go.

 

Agree with this completely. I have backed Lerner/Lambert in their stated intentions for the club, but as I have said before, if things do not change this summer, then my opinion is that one or both have to go.

 

You're lucky to have found a statement of intentions by Lambert and Lerner. Can you share it with us please.

 

 

There have been various bits and pieces, mostly from Lambert, some from Faulkner, setting out their intentions.

I think you know what I mean.

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Getting excluded from the Director's area is no big deal and no surprise. If you walk into someone's house and shit on their lounge carpet, then you can hardly be expected to be offered a seat and a cup of tea.

If that person charged you a large amount to come in and his house was shit do you not have the right to voice your opinion?

If I wasn't happy with the quality of food from tesco I doubt their chief exec would ban me for telling them.

Sure you can have an opinion, but if you don't like it, f off, and take your large amount of money with you.

Fortunately for the Chief Exec of Tesco, he wouldn't have to look at your ugly face every time that you went shopping, so not a particularly good comparison.

Its much better than your example of working into a strangers house and shitting on the floor. How is it anything like that?

Its a business and he was a customer, he paid more money to sit with those directors and they're happy to take peoples money to do that so why does he not get to voice his opinion?

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I don't agree with all of his points, but the comparison to the comparison to the last year of Deadly/Dolly is appropriate. When Lerner took over, I never thought things would look as bad as they did that season, but we're right back on that downward trajectory. This time with someone who I'm not sure would have the nerve to pull the trigger on a poor manager until it's too late.

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I don't think that we should be surprised at the cloak and dagger stuff that's going on at the club. I stopped believing/trusting what comes out of the club after General Krulak left this forum in the way he did.

 

What surprises me is, just how long will it be before the fans take a stance against what is going on at our club? What will it take before the fans say "right, that's enough. I am going to do something about this"? Regardless of what anyone thinks of Lerner, the way the club has been run - together with the pathetic three/four seasons we've been forced to endure - surely it cannot go on being accepted for much longer? Do we have to wait until the club is relegated, which looks inevitable if we continue as we are.

 

It would be interesting to know just what it would take for fans to say "enough is enough".

 

For a more recent forum member like me, what happened with Krulak?

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Based on this and what John Lerwill has said, the brass at VP behave like thugs, and it's very worrisome. The early days P.R. push was just smoke and mirrors designed to flatter and deflect any future criticism.

 

We are run by a group of inept thugs who are drunk with power.

 

Shameful state of affairs.

Howard Hodgson was socialising with these "thugs" only a few weeks ago, what has changed? Interesting.
What has changed ? Perhaps he got fed up of watching the shite being dished up down B6. It still looks Shite even if you're in a comfy seat in the directors box. He decided to ask the questions that need asking. Good on him.

 

Or maybe Lerner caught Howard consuming his cookies and milk.  :)

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I don't think that we should be surprised at the cloak and dagger stuff that's going on at the club. I stopped believing/trusting what comes out of the club after General Krulak left this forum in the way he did.

What surprises me is, just how long will it be before the fans take a stance against what is going on at our club? What will it take before the fans say "right, that's enough. I am going to do something about this"? Regardless of what anyone thinks of Lerner, the way the club has been run - together with the pathetic three/four seasons we've been forced to endure - surely it cannot go on being accepted for much longer? Do we have to wait until the club is relegated, which looks inevitable if we continue as we are.

It would be interesting to know just what it would take for fans to say "enough is enough".

For a more recent forum member like me, what happened with Krulak?

He posted some ridiculous things and was found out to just be using boards like this for PR spin. When that became obvious he'd lost all respect and left quickly.

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Hairy Hands??

Maybe! He makes some very interesting points but sounds like a bitter man to me.
For me, HairyHands was a total Lambert apologist, as well as being somewhere in the Lambert "magic circle"and Howard H, despite sharing his initials, doesn't sound like he's been too pally with PL for a while.
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