RunRickyRun Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Kiev got utterly bummed in world war two. Not to mention the atrocities committed before the war and after the war. In fact there aren't many populations that have suffered like the Ukrainians have over the last 100 years. Yet Holodomor hardly gets a mention (even comes up as a spelling error in Firefox!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AValon Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Obama swingin' at Putin too, Par for the course. Any political mileage they can get out of each other they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) US president accuses his Russian counterpart of failing to respect people’s basic freedoms in both Ukraine and Syria How about Israel failing to respect Palestinians basic freedoms? Has Obama come out and accused the Israeli president? Edited February 20, 2014 by AVFCforever1991 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted February 20, 2014 Moderator Share Posted February 20, 2014 This is a horrible situation without a simple solution, ugly, dangerous and not likely to end anytime soon. And in the midst of it, some world class trolling by Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikantcpell Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) This comment may sit ill with the understandable seriousness of the topic but, whenever I see the thread title, I can't help but see Leemond in the midst of a late night cooking escapade. Edited February 20, 2014 by snowychap 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danwichmann Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 US president accuses his Russian counterpart of failing to respect people’s basic freedoms in both Ukraine and Syria How about Israel failing to respect Palestinians basic freedoms? Has Obama come out and accused the Israeli president? True, but doesn't make him less right in this case. Two wrongs don't make a right, or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Jesus there's some depressing shit on the news. Snipers shooting their own people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Kiev is a war zone. The government does not care about their people's safety anymore (if they ever did). I don't see this being resolved any time soon. There was a temporary truce between the government and its people, but it was the Ukrainian government that broke it. This situation is a major issue which leaves a lot of nations in difficult situation. I am sure Obama knows exactly what is going on but he cannot exactly intervene without causing a war with Ukraine and potentially aggravating Russia. The best bet at this point is to hope the Ukrainian people can successfully reclaim their nation (doubt it), but if they cannot, I can see other nations intervening but it will be after thousands of citizens have died. Very bad situation to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26289318?r=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 There is an absolutely fantastic piece of journalism from Swedens most famous football journalist in our biggest paper today. Erik Niva. It tells the story that apparently the Ultras of Shaktar Donetsk got in to this protest not because they agreed with the politics but they hated to see ukranian brothers and sisters beaten on the streets. It spread to the other teams in the eastern Soviet friendly parts and they have join the Shaktar fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 21, 2014 Author Share Posted February 21, 2014 Jesus there's some depressing shit on the news. Snipers shooting their own people. That would never happen in the USA D'oh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Yanukovych has fled Kiev and protesters have moved into his presidential palace. Sounds like he will get the Ceaușescu treatment if he tries to return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danwichmann Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 There is an absolutely fantastic piece of journalism from Swedens most famous football journalist in our biggest paper today. Erik Niva. It tells the story that apparently the Ultras of Shaktar Donetsk got in to this protest not because they agreed with the politics but they hated to see ukranian brothers and sisters beaten on the streets. It spread to the other teams in the eastern Soviet friendly parts and they have join the Shaktar fans. Is there a link to that in English anywhere? It does sound an interesting read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted February 22, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted February 22, 2014 There is an absolutely fantastic piece of journalism from Swedens most famous football journalist in our biggest paper today. Erik Niva. It tells the story that apparently the Ultras of Shaktar Donetsk got in to this protest not because they agreed with the politics but they hated to see ukranian brothers and sisters beaten on the streets. It spread to the other teams in the eastern Soviet friendly parts and they have join the Shaktar fans. Is there a link to that in English anywhere? It does sound an interesting read. Not that I know of. If you feel brave you can run it through google translate I guess http://bloggar.aftonbladet.se/bankoniva/2014/01/no-one-would-riot-for-less/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Avenue Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 (edited) Yanukovych has fled Kiev and protesters have moved into his presidential palace. Sounds like he will get the Ceaușescu treatment if he tries to return. Probably on a private jet to Moscow Edited February 22, 2014 by Electric Avenue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danwichmann Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 There is an absolutely fantastic piece of journalism from Swedens most famous football journalist in our biggest paper today. Erik Niva. It tells the story that apparently the Ultras of Shaktar Donetsk got in to this protest not because they agreed with the politics but they hated to see ukranian brothers and sisters beaten on the streets. It spread to the other teams in the eastern Soviet friendly parts and they have join the Shaktar fans. Is there a link to that in English anywhere? It does sound an interesting read. Not that I know of. If you feel brave you can run it through google translate I guess http://bloggar.aftonbladet.se/bankoniva/2014/01/no-one-would-riot-for-less/ Thanks, but as interesting as it looks, trying to read googles horrible translation is just painful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danwichmann Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Yanukovych has fled Kiev and protesters have moved into his presidential palace. Sounds like he will get the Ceaușescu treatment if he tries to return. I worry that he's gone to raise an army, in Russia or the east, and will return to bring full on civil war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Opposition have taken control of Kiev. Armed forces vanished along with the President overnight. Dafuq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 It's because the rebels have a **** wizard on their side. PYROBLAST! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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