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I think two irish guys were killed because of this, 1 drank a pint of whiskey the other drank a beer and jumped into a river and died (his brother almost died trying to save him). The problem I have with the 'debate' is that people attack social media as if its some evil thing that's causing this. Social Media reflects society, it has no content other than what people put on it themselves. So this necknomination idiocy is a result of our appalling attitudes towards alcohol rather than any cultural phenomenon. Take down the facebook page, that'll fix it. Sorry it won't. It's like blaming ISP's for people who access child porn, it's not the ISP's fault. They are just a medium like a paper and pen. It's the people putting the content up and buying into it that are the problem.  

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I think two irish guys were killed because of this, 1 drank a pint of whiskey the other drank a beer and jumped into a river and died (his brother almost died trying to save him). The problem I have with the 'debate' is that people attack social media as if its some evil thing that's causing this. Social Media reflects society, it has no content other than what people put on it themselves. So this necknomination idiocy is a result of our appalling attitudes towards alcohol rather than any cultural phenomenon. Take down the facebook page, that'll fix it. Sorry it won't. It's like blaming ISP's for people who access child porn, it's not the ISP's fault. They are just a medium like a paper and pen. It's the people putting the content up and buying into it that are the problem.  

 

99% I agree with you, the 1% I don't is because forums like Social Media actually do add to the whole moral behaviour debate despite how much people want to remove them from it. If you look at the whole idea of this as I understand if you don't complete one of these "dares" then ridicule follows. Now for me I don't care two hoots what people say or think about me and publish it or stick it up where the sun don't shine is my attitude, BUT there are a lot of people who don't follow this sort of mentality and basically succumb to something that is actually borderline cyber-bullying.

 

The whole idea of this little craze is alcohol abuse as far as I can see it, which again isn't the best thing to be used as a badge of honour. Don't get me wrong I have many many stories, some of which I can remember some of which I was told about afterwards due to intoxication, but there has to be a limit for each of us, not make the "worst" the norm if you know what I mean.

 

I am sure that a lot of fun is got from this, but I suspect that more cases of injury and possible fatality will arise and be reported. What will be the next jolly jape then that people will "have to" try?

 

I am now off to see how much Harpic I can pour up my rectum, it's all part of a new internet craze called Cracknomination

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there's one going round kiddy that involves shitting in the pint glass...

 

bloke at work said he'd seen one where they poured the pint in to a bog tipped the kid up and he had to drink it through a straw...

 

makes me glad im 29, really dont understand how this makes you a "lad", safe to say if i got a nomination for anything like that it would be followed by "**** off"

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there's one going round kiddy that involves shitting in the pint glass...

 

bloke at work said he'd seen one where they poured the pint in to a bog tipped the kid up and he had to drink it through a straw...

 

makes me glad im 29, really dont understand how this makes you a "lad", safe to say if i got a nomination for anything like that it would be followed by "**** off"

Christ, I thought Hells Angel initiations were extreme!!

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there's one going round kiddy that involves shitting in the pint glass...

 

bloke at work said he'd seen one where they poured the pint in to a bog tipped the kid up and he had to drink it through a straw...

 

makes me glad im 29, really dont understand how this makes you a "lad", safe to say if i got a nomination for anything like that it would be followed by "**** off"

Christ, I thought Hells Angel initiations were extreme!!

 

Don't you just have to be a blonde and talk to a bloke called Charlie on the phone ............... or am I getting confused again?

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I am sure that a lot of fun is got from this, but I suspect that more cases of injury and possible fatality will arise and be reported. What will be the next jolly jape then that people will "have to" try?

 

 

 

I am now off to see how much Harpic I can pour up my rectum, it's all part of a new internet craze called Cracknomination

 

 

To be fair, the majority I have seen on my Facebook wall (which is a tonne because it's become so popular) have been more about making people laugh and people are seemingly trying to outdo each other by necking disgusting things rather than dangerous things, or by putting it alongside an entertaining monologue. I think that considering it's so popular and only 2 (1 confirmed) lads have died, then it isn't worth the outrage.

 

People play drinking games. People drink. People get hurt when making poor decisions regarding alcohol.

 

Blaming the game, as some have done, without attributing any blame to alcohol is frankly bizarre.

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I am sure that a lot of fun is got from this, but I suspect that more cases of injury and possible fatality will arise and be reported. What will be the next jolly jape then that people will "have to" try?

 

 

 

I am now off to see how much Harpic I can pour up my rectum, it's all part of a new internet craze called Cracknomination

 

 

To be fair, the majority I have seen on my Facebook wall (which is a tonne because it's become so popular) have been more about making people laugh and people are seemingly trying to outdo each other by necking disgusting things rather than dangerous things, or by putting it alongside an entertaining monologue. I think that considering it's so popular and only 2 (1 confirmed) lads have died, then it isn't worth the outrage.

 

People play drinking games. People drink. People get hurt when making poor decisions regarding alcohol.

 

Blaming the game, as some have done, without attributing any blame to alcohol is frankly bizarre.

 

 

Yes and No While the majority may be harmless fun as you say, the undertone of the whole thing as I see it is followed by public ridicule if you don't conform to what is nothing more than mass pressure via social media sites. That in itself is very dangerous ground and there are many many cases of ill that has followed from things like that.

 

I agree drinking games can be fun, and again I have partaken i them before and probably will do so again in the future, BUT they are usually within a closed set of people. The fact that social media is driving this makes the comparison against drinking games in a pub for instance a very grey area because IMO the two are certainly not alike.

 

If some want to gain credibility and standing through this, then I suspect they have a few issues that need resolving. But that is probably just me thinking like that.

 

Edit: Oops I thought it was Ben (Stevo) that replied to me - apologies for any confusion

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We live in a drinking culture, that is where the 'problem'* lies. This fad is just another in a long line of games invented by young naive fools brought up in such a culture.

 

Education is getting better and this nomination stuff isn't a sign of the apocalypse. There will always be tragic cases related to drinking, but overreacting and banning games or promotions of cheap alcohol will achieve nothing worthwhile.

 

*In the eyes of some. I don't we have a problem.

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We live in a drinking culture, that is where the 'problem'* lies. This fad is just another in a long line of games invented by young naive fools brought up in such a culture.

 

Education is getting better and this nomination stuff isn't a sign of the apocalypse. There will always be tragic cases related to drinking, but overreacting and banning games or promotions of cheap alcohol will achieve nothing worthwhile.

 

*In the eyes of some. I don't we have a problem.

Absolutely 100% - banning is not an answer, its about social acceptance of what is and what isn't passable behaviour

 

But I do not have a video of the Harpic challenge I have just completed - and a funny desire to sing Johnny Cash ring of fire

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I am sure that a lot of fun is got from this, but I suspect that more cases of injury and possible fatality will arise and be reported. What will be the next jolly jape then that people will "have to" try?

 

 

 

I am now off to see how much Harpic I can pour up my rectum, it's all part of a new internet craze called Cracknomination

 

 

To be fair, the majority I have seen on my Facebook wall (which is a tonne because it's become so popular) have been more about making people laugh and people are seemingly trying to outdo each other by necking disgusting things rather than dangerous things, or by putting it alongside an entertaining monologue. I think that considering it's so popular and only 2 (1 confirmed) lads have died, then it isn't worth the outrage.

 

People play drinking games. People drink. People get hurt when making poor decisions regarding alcohol.

 

Blaming the game, as some have done, without attributing any blame to alcohol is frankly bizarre.

 

 

Yes and No While the majority may be harmless fun as you say, the undertone of the whole thing as I see it is followed by public ridicule if you don't conform to what is nothing more than mass pressure via social media sites. That in itself is very dangerous ground and there are many many cases of ill that has followed from things like that.

 

I agree drinking games can be fun, and again I have partaken i them before and probably will do so again in the future, BUT they are usually within a closed set of people. The fact that social media is driving this makes the comparison against drinking games in a pub for instance a very grey area because IMO the two are certainly not alike.

 

If some want to gain credibility and standing through this, then I suspect they have a few issues that need resolving. But that is probably just me thinking like that.

 

Edit: Oops I thought it was Ben (Stevo) that replied to me - apologies for any confusion

 

 

No problem.

 

Facebook isn't a completely public medium though. It's broadcasted to your friends. I agree, it's not similar to conventional drinking games in some ways. However, the game isn't to down a pint of spirits. It's to down a pint of lager/something disgusting that doesn't even have to be alcoholic. People who want to 'one-up' their friends can be clever about it. I saw one where a guy went to the beach near my old uni, stood by the sea and said a huge monologue. I saw people pretend to be caught in the shower and doing it naked. You don't need to drink a dangerous amount of alcohol to 'beat' your friends. If you feel the need to do that, then you're making a bad choice whether you're playing a game or not.

 

You mention the 'ridicule' if you don't do it. Downing a pint of lager to avoid ridicule isn't particularly dangerous and that's my comparison to conventional drinking games.

 

If you want to take it further just to impress some people on the internet, then you're making a bad choice.

 

EDIT: re: your latest post.

 

I don't see the issue in the game as a whole. As outlined above, people are generally sensible with it. Some people, however, take it too far as with anything.

 

It's like anything. Labelling a whole game as 'unacceptable behaviour' (and I'm not saying you are) because of a few idiots is a bit meh.

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