samjp26 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I still don't understand these pundits saying "there was clear contact", it can't be that clear because nobody else can see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Its a dive, he is barely touched and that is not enough to make you go down. Anyone that has played football knows this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 https://vine.co/v/hlvLjbxzaQn Where, pundits? Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 So many pundits claiming Guzan hit him with his knee. He really didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 https://vine.co/v/hlvLjbxzaQn Where, pundits? Where? The only contact I can see is guzans knee on Suarez toe nail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 If Guzan clipped Suarez with his knee, how was he able to left that leg over Guzan's body? Lineker claims it was his stomach, Shearer was his knee, Rodgers says it was his glove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 If Guzan clipped Suarez with his knee, how was he able to left that leg over Guzan's body? Lineker claims it was his stomach, Shearer was his knee, Rodgers says it was his glove. I say it was **** all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 If Guzan clipped Suarez with his knee, how was he able to left that leg over Guzan's body? Lineker claims it was his stomach, Shearer was his knee, Rodgers says it was his glove. Think that says it all, no one actually knows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) It's utterly embarrassing. I really do hate football at times. The cheating is bad enough, but it's the sycophants sucking up to the big clubs. There's not enough contact to warrant a penalty. It's certainly not enough for a foul. Had that been anywhere else on the pitch then the referee would have probably told Suarez to get up. Edited January 19, 2014 by The_Steve 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 The embarrassing thing is they were labeling it as clever play by Suarez! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Avenue Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 How is cheating clever play ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I might be being paranoid but if that had been Mignolet on Gabby and a penalty had been given I doubt we would be seeing such staunch defence of Gab in the press. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 How is cheating clever play ? I've no idea! I love that the poll they did voted 61% to him diving. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 How is cheating clever play ? "modern game" we should all just accept it and move on, especially seeing as we have players that also do it and have benefited from several similar decisions so far this year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 As I said to my Liverpool supporting friend on Facebook. I'm not stupid enough to realise WHY the referee gave it, it doesn't mean it wasn't a dive. It's new modern football. You sit there with pundits trying to tell us contact is a foul, unless it's from a corner then you can essentially sexually harass and it's fine. If you think contact is a foul (and I'm not convinced either way there was contact yesterday) then you have to accept diving and not moan like a little bitch when it happens against you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) Here's what Liverpool fans are using as 'evidence': All that really demonstrates is that Suarez is taking his body away from Guzan. To suggest there is contact from one screengrab is inconclusive and clutching at straws. When you are using Robbie Savage or MOTD pundits to argue any point in football, you are most likely wrong. Edited January 19, 2014 by The_Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 All I wanted last night was a balanced debate on motd, what I got was 3 blokes who said it was a pen because the was clear contact, they didn't, not even once show a replay and zoom in to prove where that contact was, and then when the fid he dive poll results were shown it was greeted with a sarcastic brush off by lineker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenavfc1874 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 The trouble is these pundits don't really have to do much more than repeat there well rehearsed sound bites to fit the various situations that crop up. Don't forget they are exclusively ex footballers who have latched on to an easy final pay day. Creative journalists they are not. Thus the usual cliches are handed down week after week, 'if there is contact he is entitled to go down', 'clever play by the forward' etc etc To my mind if a player is entitled to go down then the inference is that he has a choice in the matter. If he chooses to fall then theoretically he has dived. Furthermore if he chooses to fall when he could easily stay up he is trying to gain an advantage. In the current climate yesterdays incident could have gone either way but I think lazy journalism has a lot to answer for As has already been stated, this was not an issue 20 years ago but these 'clever players' and the ritual condoning of their actions by experts and trial by television has radically changed how the rules are interpreted. PS well done the Villa boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Great quote from Hoddle about an incident in this Chelsea vs Manure game. He said football now is like watching a basketball game. It is true, even if there is the slightest of contact, does that always mean there is a foul? It is a contact sport after all, yet we are seeing players dive all over the place and screaming for penalties when there is the most minute bit of player to player contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 A foul to me is when a player is obstructed or hindered. If a foul was for contact then they'd be a foul everytime a player goes up for a header. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts