smetrov Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I read over the weekend that Aston Villa have the 8th Highest Average Attendance in the PL ............. So there really need is no reason why we are dealing like Paupers................. I know attendance money is small beer in comparission to TV revenue etc .....but the general point stands - we should have more clout than we appear to have at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suttonpaul Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 The income generated by match day fans pales in comparison to TV revenue, sponsorship and merchandising sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 So there really need is no reason why we are dealing like Paupers................. Yes there is, this reason. I know attendance money is small beer in comparission to TV revenue etc................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I agree. The only teams who should be spending more than us are MUFC, MCFC, CFC, AFC, THFC and LFC. We should be paying the same wages as EFC and NUFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasabian21 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Why should we? Do you have access to our accounts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 We should be paying the same wages as EFC and NUFC. Out of interest, how much are their wage bills compared to ours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) I agree. The only teams who should be spending more than us are MUFC, MCFC, CFC, AFC, THFC and LFC. We should be paying the same wages as EFC and NUFC. That's not how football works though. By your logic Leeds should be spending more than some PL clubs. Edited January 13, 2014 by Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 More people to be disappointed after a match. Sad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMcKenna Posted January 13, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2014 Unfortunately comparing attendance figures isn't comparing "apples with apples" A case in point is Spurs or even Chelsea. On average we are 5 % above Spurs and 10% below Chelsea in terms of numbers but both generate dramatically more in revenue from attendances than we do. To them and the likes of Arsenal, Man U, Liverpool etc attendance money is important. While it is true that TV money is much more important, if ever the Premier League made the split less egalitarian or the big 6 decided they wanted to negotiate TV fees directly, clubs such as Villa would be in even more trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 We should be paying the same wages as EFC and NUFC. Out of interest, how much are their wage bills compared to ours? I don't know but I assume more because Lambert said we couldn't afford Lukaku's wages and he's now at Everton and also the same for Moussa Sissoko who's now at Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I agree. The only teams who should be spending more than us are MUFC, MCFC, CFC, AFC, THFC and LFC. We should be paying the same wages as EFC and NUFC. That's not how football works though. By your logic Leeds should be spending more than some PL clubs. If they were in the PL then yes but obviously not without the TV money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I read over the weekend that Aston Villa have the 8th Highest Average Attendance in the PL ............. So there really need is no reason why we are dealing like Paupers................. I know attendance money is small beer in comparission to TV revenue etc .....but the general point stands - we should have more clout than we appear to have at the moment. If we had clout we wouldn't know what to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) So there really need is no reason why we are dealing like Paupers................. Yes there is, this reason. I know attendance money is small beer in comparission to TV revenue etc................. Luckily our TV revenue is HUGE like everyone elses Edited January 13, 2014 by Ulver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I agree. The only teams who should be spending more than us are MUFC, MCFC, CFC, AFC, THFC and LFC. We should be paying the same wages as EFC and NUFC. That's not how football works though. By your logic Leeds should be spending more than some PL clubs. If they were in the PL then yes but obviously not without the TV money. So why do you think only the clubs you listed are the ones that "should" be spending more money than us? There are so many different factors involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I agree. The only teams who should be spending more than us are MUFC, MCFC, CFC, AFC, THFC and LFC. We should be paying the same wages as EFC and NUFC. That's not how football works though. By your logic Leeds should be spending more than some PL clubs. If they were in the PL then yes but obviously not without the TV money. So why do you think only the clubs you listed are the ones that "should" be spending more money than us? There are so many different factors involved. Bigger revenues, bigger clubs, Champions League money etc. Everton are no bigger than us, have no Champions League money, similar crowds to us etc so I expect us to be competing with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I agree. The only teams who should be spending more than us are MUFC, MCFC, CFC, AFC, THFC and LFC. We should be paying the same wages as EFC and NUFC. That's not how football works though. By your logic Leeds should be spending more than some PL clubs. If they were in the PL then yes but obviously not without the TV money. So why do you think only the clubs you listed are the ones that "should" be spending more money than us? There are so many different factors involved. Bigger revenues, bigger clubs, Champions League money etc. Everton are no bigger than us, have no Champions League money, similar crowds to us etc so I expect us to be competing with them. So we "should" be spending more or the same as the rest of the league because we're bigger? It just doesn't work like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 We should be paying the same wages as EFC and NUFC. Out of interest, how much are their wage bills compared to ours? I don't know but I assume more because Lambert said we couldn't afford Lukaku's wages and he's now at Everton and also the same for Moussa Sissoko who's now at Newcastle. That's a fair assumption to make, but I'm genuinely interested in what the total wage bills are because we've still got some big earners on our books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 For a start we have some of the most modest priced tickets in the Premier League (which is no bad thing for us the fans to be fair). If you're selling say 35K tickets at anywhere £30 - £45 (not taking into account concessions), and someone else is selling 30K tickets at £50 - £70, they're making more than you. Add to that selling corporate boxes, refreshments, merchandise, sponsorship, TV money, prize money etc, not to mention the 'sugar daddy' scenarios, then is only a tiny part of your turnover. As such having the 8th highest attendances means very little. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted January 13, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2014 Read this today too. It's a fantastic plus for our club, and after the excesses financially something that with our wage bill below 60% of turnover shoudl put us in a good position to invest, sensibly. Anyone thinking this means we have an automatic right to spunk loads of money we don't have again has been living in a hole in the ground the last 4 years. What it does mean is after we have got this season out the way, retain our Premier league status (hopefully with a mid table finish to get as much tv cash as possible) then we will be in a very healthy position. Obviously we'd all prefer to be where Everton are at the moment but we've got to survive some tough times still at least for the remainder of this season before we can start thinking about climbing the table instead of just getting our house in order. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa-revolution Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Read this today too. It's a fantastic plus for our club, and after the excesses financially something that with our wage bill below 60% of turnover shoudl put us in a good position to invest, sensibly. Anyone thinking this means we have an automatic right to spunk loads of money we don't have again has been living in a hole in the ground the last 4 years. What it does mean is after we have got this season out the way, retain our Premier league status (hopefully with a mid table finish to get as much tv cash as possible) then we will be in a very healthy position. Obviously we'd all prefer to be where Everton are at the moment but we've got to survive some tough times still at least for the remainder of this season before we can start thinking about climbing the table instead of just getting our house in order. I agree with this - plus, our regular fans deserve a pat on the back for their loyalty. Just imagine what our gates would be if we were at our maximum potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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