drat01 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 But HH keeps telling us that wages are an issue? - Who do you believe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarjei Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 How much is he is on then? I thought Gabby was the highest earner, with something like 50k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted December 31, 2013 Moderator Share Posted December 31, 2013 But HH keeps telling us that wages are an issue? - Who do you believe? I think it's painfully obvious that wages are an issue :-/ In more ways than one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/apr/18/premier-league-finances-club-by-club According to this article, our wage bill last season was 70m.....can't remember who we got rid of in the summer but I still think it's probably 60m. 7th Highest in the league. Turnover 80m (Dropped from 92m the year before!!) which is 9th Highest in league. One "positive" is that we made an 18m loss last year according to this, year before was a 54m loss so that's a huge improvement and means should make a profit this season. Also another "guess" at the players wages, going by this article: http://www.tsmplug.com/football/aston-villa-players-salaries/ Given (2016) = 50k Hutton (2015) = 30k N'Zogbia (2016) = 65k Ireland (2014) = 70k Bent (2015) = 65k Total = 14.5m per year As for the "useful" ones: Agbonlahor (2015) = 45k Weimann (2015) = 15k Benteke (2017) = 60k I think Weimann's signed a new deal since that article though. Benteke isn't on anything like 60k a week and Weimann maybe on 15k now but not before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 How much is Lambert on out of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 he wasn't in the top 50 paid managers list, so he's on much less than mcleish was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Whatever the overall position, there was/is still around 13m a year being wasted on 5 players not even contributing to the team. That's a £10m player on 40k a week right there. Edited December 31, 2013 by wazzap24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_ Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Everyone seems to keep saying "Benteke not on 60k a week".... what's he on then? He was on 20k before his new deal when he handed in a transfer request, then suddenly withdrew it when he got a higher pay EXTENDED contract. Personally I think he's on near to 60k as he could be on that at Arsenal or whoever just warming the bench. We can pay those kind of wages I believe, just not to a whole team like we were before. Just the odd 2 or 3 "Star performers". There's at least 5 articles saying he on 60k and one says "at least double" from 20k.... nothing says otherwise, other than loads of people on here who seem to think we wouldn't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 But HH keeps telling us that wages are an issue? - Who do you believe? I think it's painfully obvious that wages are an issue :-/ In more ways than one. Surely the new BT TV deal should mean that's no longer the case. If you finish bottom this season you still get more money than Man U got for finishing top last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Delph's on more than Benteke currently is apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Everyone seems to keep saying "Benteke not on 60k a week".... what's he on then? He was on 20k before his new deal when he handed in a transfer request, I don't think he was, that's the thing. Going by our other signings, he was probably on £10k or less, which would've been a HUGE pay increase from the Belgian league He's most likely on £30k absolute tops now, but I'd say closer to £25k tbh Edited December 31, 2013 by P3te Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Based on wages being supposedly way less than people think for newer players, I wouldn't be surprised if we were something along the lines of this: Guzan 20k Steer 5k Given 55k Donacien 1k Hutton 30k Baker 10k Clark 15k Bennett 10k Vlaar 15k Okore 15k Luna 10k Lowton 10k Stevens 5k N'Zogbia 50k Bacuna 7.5k El Ahmadi 10k Albrighton 15k Westwood 12k Delph 35k Herd 3k Sylla 5k Gardner 5k Tonev 5k Carruthers 2k Johnson 2k Ireland 30k (sticking with the approximation of half from the original post, but he'll be gone in the summer anyway) Benteke 25k Agbonlahor 55k Weimann 15k Kozak 10k Bowery 2k Delfouneso 15k (a remnant of the big spending days) Burke 1k Helenius 5K Bent 0k (I think Fulham are paying his full wage) That's a total of £510.5k per week, or £26.5m a year, which will could be reduced further by getting rid of Hutton, Given, Bent, Nzogbia, Stevens, Delfouneso and Ireland in the summer, leaving it at £16.9m or, to give it it's full technical term, sweet fanny adams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Based on wages being supposedly way less than people think for newer players, I wouldn't be surprised if we were something along the lines of this: Guzan 20k Steer 5k Given 55k Donacien 1k Hutton 30k Baker 10k Clark 15k Bennett 10k Vlaar 15k Okore 15k Luna 10k Lowton 10k Stevens 5k N'Zogbia 50k Bacuna 7.5k El Ahmadi 10k Albrighton 15k Westwood 12k Delph 35k Herd 3k Sylla 5k Gardner 5k Tonev 5k Carruthers 2k Johnson 2k Ireland 30k (sticking with the approximation of half from the original post, but he'll be gone in the summer anyway) Benteke 25k Agbonlahor 55k Weimann 15k Kozak 10k Bowery 2k Delfouneso 15k (a remnant of the big spending days) Burke 1k Helenius 5K Bent 0k (I think Fulham are paying his full wage) That's a total of £510.5k per week, or £26.5m a year, which will could be reduced further by getting rid of Hutton, Given, Bent, Nzogbia, Stevens, Delfouneso and Ireland in the summer, leaving it at £16.9m or, to give it it's full technical term, sweet fanny adams **** mental for a premier league club with our gates, sponsor etc. And with the new TV money kicking in. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Yeah it's insane. Obviously those numbers are guesses but if they're close it'd mean that in the summer we could be looking at a playing staff wage bill of around 10% of income. I can't imagine our other staff would be more that the players so that's mean 80% profit which should, in theory, make is an incredibly tempting proposition for buyers You could buy the club for £200m, put an extra £50m a season up for wages and signings combined and have your money made back in 4 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted December 31, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted December 31, 2013 I hope we dont attract that kind of buyer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I hope we dont attract that kind of buyer! A prudent one who won't financially run us into the ground but will still ensure £50m a year for player acquisition? Are you mental? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I hope we dont attract that kind of buyer! A prudent one who won't financially run us into the ground but will still ensure £50m a year for player acquisition? Are you mental? Yep crazy post. I don't get why after our 2 worst ever premiership seasons people worry about the next owner. We've hit rock bottom with this idiot in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrees Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I hope we dont attract that kind of buyer! A prudent one who won't financially run us into the ground but will still ensure £50m a year for player acquisition? Are you mental? Yep crazy post. I don't get why after our 2 worst ever premiership seasons people worry about the next owner. We've hit rock bottom with this idiot in charge. Happy New Year to you BJ10, I jope that 2014 brings you a more positively balanced mood. Just out of interest, at the height of Mr.Lerner's 'idiocy' , while he was handing O'Neill obscene amounts of money to buy largely substandard players, did you think that he was an 'idiot' at the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I hope we dont attract that kind of buyer! A prudent one who won't financially run us into the ground but will still ensure £50m a year for player acquisition? Are you mental? Yep crazy post. I don't get why after our 2 worst ever premiership seasons people worry about the next owner. We've hit rock bottom with this idiot in charge. Happy New Year to you BJ10, I jope that 2014 brings you a more positively balanced mood. Just out of interest, at the height of Mr.Lerner's 'idiocy' , while he was handing O'Neill obscene amounts of money to buy largely substandard players, did you think that he was an 'idiot' at the time? "We have a five year PLAN" With that (and not speaking for BJ10) I presumed the club did have a plan and didn't think this was just shitting in buckets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I've seen that point made before and its stupid. We didn't know what was happening in terms of finances and how it would effect the future of the club. Now all the info is out then yes its clear he was idiotic allowing spending to spiral out of control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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