smetrov Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Dunno - Liverpool look like they are running out of steam - can see Norwich getting another win somewhere. Forget the points though - we don't have one player in form at the moment - even Guzan looked ropey today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Good to see Spurs got the equalized, I only just noticed, at least it keeps Albion below us for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard E Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 We need to hope Southampton are mentally on the beach next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted April 12, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted April 12, 2014 We are down - we won't get any pt while fulham and Cardiff looks better recent weeks - it's us, Sunderland and Norwich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Dunno - Liverpool look like they are running out of steam - can see Norwich getting another win somewhere. Forget the points though - we don't have one player in form at the moment - even Guzan looked ropey today... Even if they do get another win, we just need a single point to finish above them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
switters Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I think the Hull game will probably save us. They may very well be in the FA cup final and safe in the league when we meet them...which would be perfect as they'll just be going through motions & try not to get injured. annoying that Cardiff won today as they now got hope and three winnable fixtures coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted April 12, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted April 12, 2014 Dunno - Liverpool look like they are running out of steam - can see Norwich getting another win somewhere. Forget the points though - we don't have one player in form at the moment - even Guzan looked ropey today... Even if they do get another win, we just need a single point to finish above them Next point won't be in this season though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Villa have been circling the drain now for a few years and got away with it, we can't keep lucking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Dunno - Liverpool look like they are running out of steam - can see Norwich getting another win somewhere. Forget the points though - we don't have one player in form at the moment - even Guzan looked ropey today... Even if they do get another win, we just need a single point to finish above them We have Hull - managed by Steve Bruce - who has never lost at VP as a manager - and southampton - unless those teams roll over for us - I just don't see it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Still can't see us going down based on the fact that we need 4 of the teams below us to finish above us, and the fixtures are as follows: Villa: Southampton (h), Swansea (a), Hull (h), City (a), Spurs (h) - 34 points // -14 GD Swansea: Chelsea (h), Newcastle (a), Villa (h), Southampton (h), Sunderland (a) - 33 points // -4 GD WBA: City (a), West Ham (h), Arsenal (a), Sunderland (a), Stoke (h) - 33 points // -11 GD Norwich: Liverpool (h), Man Utd (a), Chelsea (a), Arsenal (h) - 32 points // -27 GD Fulham: Spurs (a), Hull (h), Stoke (a), Palace (h) - 30 points // -49 GD Cardiff: Stoke (h), Sunderland (a), Newcastle (a), Chelsea (h) - 29 points // -34 GD Sunderland: City (a), Chelsea (a), Cardiff (h), Man Udt (a), WBA (h), Swansea (h) - 25 points // -25 GD I can't really see any possibility how 4 teams below us pass us out given those fixtures. Most of them are either playing the top teams or each other. I'm not so certain. Swansea could end up with 39/40 pts Fulham 36 pts Cardiff win there next two games they are on 35 pts so that just leaves Norwich and Sunderland below us if we fail to pick up another point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Dunno - Liverpool look like they are running out of steam - can see Norwich getting another win somewhere. Forget the points though - we don't have one player in form at the moment - even Guzan looked ropey today... Even if they do get another win, we just need a single point to finish above them Next point won't be in this season though How much do you want to wager on that? I'll give you 3/1 Still can't see us going down based on the fact that we need 4 of the teams below us to finish above us, and the fixtures are as follows: Villa: Southampton (h), Swansea (a), Hull (h), City (a), Spurs (h) - 34 points // -14 GD Swansea: Chelsea (h), Newcastle (a), Villa (h), Southampton (h), Sunderland (a) - 33 points // -4 GD WBA: City (a), West Ham (h), Arsenal (a), Sunderland (a), Stoke (h) - 33 points // -11 GD Norwich: Liverpool (h), Man Utd (a), Chelsea (a), Arsenal (h) - 32 points // -27 GD Fulham: Spurs (a), Hull (h), Stoke (a), Palace (h) - 30 points // -49 GD Cardiff: Stoke (h), Sunderland (a), Newcastle (a), Chelsea (h) - 29 points // -34 GD Sunderland: City (a), Chelsea (a), Cardiff (h), Man Udt (a), WBA (h), Swansea (h) - 25 points // -25 GD I can't really see any possibility how 4 teams below us pass us out given those fixtures. Most of them are either playing the top teams or each other. I'm not so certain. Swansea could end up with 39/40 pts Fulham 36 pts Cardiff win there next two games they are on 35 pts so that just leaves Norwich and Sunderland below us if we fail to pick up another point. Nothing about Swansea's recent form suggests they'll manage that though, and Fulham might squeak out, but Cardiff winning 3 in a row? Unlikely Dunno - Liverpool look like they are running out of steam - can see Norwich getting another win somewhere. Forget the points though - we don't have one player in form at the moment - even Guzan looked ropey today... Even if they do get another win, we just need a single point to finish above them We have Hull - managed by Steve Bruce - who has never lost at VP as a manager - and southampton - unless those teams roll over for us - I just don't see it... Same can be said for the other teams though, they're below us for a reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichiBoi11 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 After today's performance I think we need three teams to finish on 33 points or less as I genuinely don't see that team picking up a single point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever happened to ..... Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 If form over the year is anything to go by we will get at least a point against man city because they are obviously so much better than we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Dunno - Liverpool look like they are running out of steam - can see Norwich getting another win somewhere. Forget the points though - we don't have one player in form at the moment - even Guzan looked ropey today... Even if they do get another win, we just need a single point to finish above them Next point won't be in this season though How much do you want to wager on that? I'll give you 3/1 Still can't see us going down based on the fact that we need 4 of the teams below us to finish above us, and the fixtures are as follows: Villa: Southampton (h), Swansea (a), Hull (h), City (a), Spurs (h) - 34 points // -14 GD Swansea: Chelsea (h), Newcastle (a), Villa (h), Southampton (h), Sunderland (a) - 33 points // -4 GD WBA: City (a), West Ham (h), Arsenal (a), Sunderland (a), Stoke (h) - 33 points // -11 GD Norwich: Liverpool (h), Man Utd (a), Chelsea (a), Arsenal (h) - 32 points // -27 GD Fulham: Spurs (a), Hull (h), Stoke (a), Palace (h) - 30 points // -49 GD Cardiff: Stoke (h), Sunderland (a), Newcastle (a), Chelsea (h) - 29 points // -34 GD Sunderland: City (a), Chelsea (a), Cardiff (h), Man Udt (a), WBA (h), Swansea (h) - 25 points // -25 GD I can't really see any possibility how 4 teams below us pass us out given those fixtures. Most of them are either playing the top teams or each other. I'm not so certain. Swansea could end up with 39/40 pts Fulham 36 pts Cardiff win there next two games they are on 35 pts so that just leaves Norwich and Sunderland below us if we fail to pick up another point. Nothing about Swansea's recent form suggests they'll manage that though, and Fulham might squeak out, but Cardiff winning 3 in a row? Unlikely Its unlikely as is Norwich winning one of their last 4games but its happened before so is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Dunno - Liverpool look like they are running out of steam - can see Norwich getting another win somewhere. Forget the points though - we don't have one player in form at the moment - even Guzan looked ropey today... Even if they do get another win, we just need a single point to finish above them Next point won't be in this season though How much do you want to wager on that? I'll give you 3/1 Still can't see us going down based on the fact that we need 4 of the teams below us to finish above us, and the fixtures are as follows: Villa: Southampton (h), Swansea (a), Hull (h), City (a), Spurs (h) - 34 points // -14 GD Swansea: Chelsea (h), Newcastle (a), Villa (h), Southampton (h), Sunderland (a) - 33 points // -4 GD WBA: City (a), West Ham (h), Arsenal (a), Sunderland (a), Stoke (h) - 33 points // -11 GD Norwich: Liverpool (h), Man Utd (a), Chelsea (a), Arsenal (h) - 32 points // -27 GD Fulham: Spurs (a), Hull (h), Stoke (a), Palace (h) - 30 points // -49 GD Cardiff: Stoke (h), Sunderland (a), Newcastle (a), Chelsea (h) - 29 points // -34 GD Sunderland: City (a), Chelsea (a), Cardiff (h), Man Udt (a), WBA (h), Swansea (h) - 25 points // -25 GD I can't really see any possibility how 4 teams below us pass us out given those fixtures. Most of them are either playing the top teams or each other. I'm not so certain. Swansea could end up with 39/40 pts Fulham 36 pts Cardiff win there next two games they are on 35 pts so that just leaves Norwich and Sunderland below us if we fail to pick up another point. Nothing about Swansea's recent form suggests they'll manage that though, and Fulham might squeak out, but Cardiff winning 3 in a row? Unlikely Its unlikely as is Norwich winning one of their last 4games but its happened before so is possible. Yeah, but you don't just need one of those things to happen for us to go down, you need them all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Dunno - Liverpool look like they are running out of steam - can see Norwich getting another win somewhere. Forget the points though - we don't have one player in form at the moment - even Guzan looked ropey today... Haven't they won their last nine games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Dunno - Liverpool look like they are running out of steam - can see Norwich getting another win somewhere. Forget the points though - we don't have one player in form at the moment - even Guzan looked ropey today... Even if they do get another win, we just need a single point to finish above them Next point won't be in this season though How much do you want to wager on that? I'll give you 3/1 Still can't see us going down based on the fact that we need 4 of the teams below us to finish above us, and the fixtures are as follows: Villa: Southampton (h), Swansea (a), Hull (h), City (a), Spurs (h) - 34 points // -14 GD Swansea: Chelsea (h), Newcastle (a), Villa (h), Southampton (h), Sunderland (a) - 33 points // -4 GD WBA: City (a), West Ham (h), Arsenal (a), Sunderland (a), Stoke (h) - 33 points // -11 GD Norwich: Liverpool (h), Man Utd (a), Chelsea (a), Arsenal (h) - 32 points // -27 GD Fulham: Spurs (a), Hull (h), Stoke (a), Palace (h) - 30 points // -49 GD Cardiff: Stoke (h), Sunderland (a), Newcastle (a), Chelsea (h) - 29 points // -34 GD Sunderland: City (a), Chelsea (a), Cardiff (h), Man Udt (a), WBA (h), Swansea (h) - 25 points // -25 GD I can't really see any possibility how 4 teams below us pass us out given those fixtures. Most of them are either playing the top teams or each other. I'm not so certain. Swansea could end up with 39/40 pts Fulham 36 pts Cardiff win there next two games they are on 35 pts so that just leaves Norwich and Sunderland below us if we fail to pick up another point. Nothing about Swansea's recent form suggests they'll manage that though, and Fulham might squeak out, but Cardiff winning 3 in a row? Unlikely Its unlikely as is Norwich winning one of their last 4games but its happened before so is possible. Yeah, but you don't just need one of those things to happen for us to go down, you need them all Yes its unlikely I agree. thats why we are 20/1 to go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Dunno - Liverpool look like they are running out of steam - can see Norwich getting another win somewhere. Forget the points though - we don't have one player in form at the moment - even Guzan looked ropey today... Haven't they won their last nine games. Yes - I just feel they look they are running out of steam.....very lucky v west ham last week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Dunno - Liverpool look like they are running out of steam - can see Norwich getting another win somewhere. Forget the points though - we don't have one player in form at the moment - even Guzan looked ropey today... Haven't they won their last nine games. Yes - I just feel they look they are running out of steam.....very lucky v west ham last week... They'll likely murder Norwich like they always do though, that'll get them back on track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Not happy today obviously but looking at the permutations we still look odds on to survive, just. If we go for the slightly negative (but incredibly realistic) proposition that Villa lose all their remaining games we are left with the following situation simply put: Fulham need 5 points from Tottenham, Hull, Stoke and Crystal Palace. (their goal difference makes them need five points) Cardiff need 5 points (possibly 6 due to GD) from Stoke, Sunderland, Newcastle and Chelsea. Sunderland look doomed... they have games in hand but are against Man City and Chelsea and one of their other games is Man Utd. Then there's Norwich that need 2 points from Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal And finally WBA need 1 point from West Ham, Arsenal, Sunderland and Stoke and Swansea 1 point from Newcastle, Us, Southampton and Sunderland. I think I'd put bets on one of Cardiff and Fulham possibly surviving but Norwich helping us out. I think we're going to be 17th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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