VillaCas Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Thought we outplayed Stoke in the first half without ever looking like scoring but second half a couple of old heads made all the difference. We are a bunch of relatively inexperienced kids who DESPERATELY need a couple of experienced players, particularly in midfield. Unfortunately, I suspect Lambert will buy more kids in January and so it goes on ...... and on .......... and on ! Do you really think you can see that but Lambert can't - there will be no money to buy anyone in January Lambert wanted Sissoko and Kiyotake but no money Randy Lerner is laughing at you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Just do the decent thing and go. In any other line of work the man would be asked to go. Typical attitude if anyone involved in pro football. Rather be sacked and get £££ than do the right thing. If that was true then there would of been a few more clubs looking for new managers right now. AVB wasn't sacked, went by mutual agreement. Still got a payoff. And? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Look Morpheus, no one gives a **** about Berbatov or Adam. The fact that Lerner has put us in a position where we wouldn't even be able to try and get those players is a joke. Lerner. Invest or **** off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Look Morpheus, no one gives a **** about Berbatov or Adam. The fact that Lerner has put us in a position where we wouldn't even be able to try and get those players is a joke. Lerner. Invest or **** off! To be fair I wouldn't want us to be in for either of those players - they're just not value for money. I agree that Lambert needs more backing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismail-villa Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Had diarrhoea, and Villa still managed to produce more shit than me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Look Morpheus, no one gives a **** about Berbatov or Adam. The fact that Lerner has put us in a position where we wouldn't even be able to try and get those players is a joke. Lerner. Invest or **** off! To be fair I wouldn't want us to be in for either of those players - they're just not value for money. I agree that Lambert needs more backing though. Well no I wouldn't want then but just an example that they wouldn't join us due to wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) It is a damming indictment of the premier league that a pish poor stoke side is somehow 10th at December. Best league in the world my arse. 6-7 good sides, and rest is filler. Still at least we are still 13th and 6pts off the drop. That is why Lerner has cut the costs. If we stay up with the minimum of spend every year, its happy days. We are the smashed swede of football. You don't really notice its on the plate, and its purpose is to soak up the juicy flavours of the rest. Edited December 21, 2013 by The Fun Factory 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 I don't expect Lerner to fork out 80k a week (or whatever ridiculous wage Berbatov is on) but by the sounds of it he's not allowing anymore than 10-20k which is just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 I don't expect Lerner to fork out 80k a week (or whatever ridiculous wage Berbatov is on) but by the sounds of it he's not allowing anymore than 10-20k which is just ridiculous. Exactly. How do you convince a player to leave a club for less money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted December 21, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted December 21, 2013 It is a damming indictment of the premier league that a pish poor stoke side is somehow 10th at December. Best league in the world my arse. 6-7 good sides, and rest is filler. Still at least we are still 13th and 6pts off the drop. That is why Lerner has cut the costs. If we stay up with the minimum of spend every year, its happy days. We are the smashed swede of football. You don't really notice its on the plate, and its purpose is to soak up the juicy flavours of the rest. Isn't every league like that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 It is a damming indictment of the premier league that a pish poor stoke side is somehow 10th at December. Best league in the world my arse. 6-7 good sides, and rest is filler. Still at least we are still 13th and 6pts off the drop. That is why Lerner has cut the costs. If we stay up with the minimum of spend every year, its happy days. We are the smashed swede of football. You don't really notice its on the plate, and its purpose is to soak up the juicy flavours of the rest. Isn't every league like that? Yeah but they dont have sky sports and newspapers claiming it to be the best.league.in.the.world every hour of the day. I am just in a bit of a grump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Difficult to remain posititve at the moment. Players aren't doing the basics. Another shitty Christmas looms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Difficult to remain posititve at the moment. Players aren't doing the basics. Another shitty Christmas looms. Its our year for the cup! (or a terrible defeat versus a lower league yorkshire side.again.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Just do the decent thing and go. In any other line of work the man would be asked to go. Typical attitude if anyone involved in pro football. Rather be sacked and get £££ than do the right thing. If that was true then there would of been a few more clubs looking for new managers right now. AVB wasn't sacked, went by mutual agreement. Still got a payoff. And? just a fact to back up a statement but whatever..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Just do the decent thing and go. In any other line of work the man would be asked to go. Typical attitude if anyone involved in pro football. Rather be sacked and get £££ than do the right thing. If that was true then there would of been a few more clubs looking for new managers right now. AVB wasn't sacked, went by mutual agreement. Still got a payoff. And? just a fact to back up a statement but whatever..... I have literally no idea what your point is....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoshVilla Posted December 21, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2013 I usually try to stay positive on here and realise that, naturally after a defeat, there's a lot of pessimism and over-reacting, which is understandable as football fans, but after that, I really do struggle to be optimistic and defend it. This season, we've failed to beat (in terms of team we always look to be beating) Newcastle, Hull, Sunderland, West Ham, Fulham, West Brom and Stoke, which is pretty worrying if we're aiming for a top half finish. We look poor in possession, as though we just don't know what to do with it. Very few of the passes that I saw today looked tidy and comfortable. It's as though we're just about managing to keep the ball, and we always look under pressure even when we're not so much. The defence is an absolute shambles. I have absolutely no idea what the hell was going on for their second goal. When you're playing Stoke and the only goal that you manage wasn't created by us at all, then something is definitely wrong. The style of football we play just isn't really working. The counter-attacking thing occasionally does when we're looking sharp but this incessant hoofing and swinging blindly at the ball just isn't doing anything. It's luck that we even manage to keep possession when we do that. The amount of times that I saw us take a swing at the ball rather than chest it down and try to control it was baffling. It feels as though we're happy to ride our luck and go for a dirty victory rather than actually try and play some football and create something. High tempo is good when it comes to counter-attacking, but I just feel as though we rush everything. We have no one to calm things down, except for Vlaar in defence. Something needs to change in January. This whole "young and hungry" thing, buying players who are good "prospects" is all good and fine if you have some calm heads in there to steady things. It's a strong foundation we need that will allow these young players to develop, one or two experienced players to give the others someone to look up to. I know that we're trying to balance out the finances, but some money needs to be spent (or, if I rephrase, spent wisely) if we're trying to be ambitious and climb the table. It's a difficult thing to say, because I know that Lerner just isn't going to give Lambert those kind of funds, but I don't really know what to suggest. I like Lambert and I like that he's trying to build something here, but it'll be difficult to carry on thinking about the bigger picture to put things into perspective when I watch what I just have. Let's hope that we can pull something out for boxing day and start to actually put some valuable points on the board. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AvfcTheObsession Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Getting tired of the same old shit now. Home forms been piss poor all season. Now the away forms gone to pot. How the hell is Gardner not making the 18? Much better technique than some of the crap playing atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Just do the decent thing and go. In any other line of work the man would be asked to go. Typical attitude if anyone involved in pro football. Rather be sacked and get £££ than do the right thing.If that was true then there would of been a few more clubs looking for new managers right now.AVB wasn't sacked, went by mutual agreement. Still got a payoff. And? just a fact to back up a statement but whatever..... My point was more to do with your first statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Yet again the Yuletide slide towards a relegation battle commences. Utterly woeful, from the worst Villa manager since McNeill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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