AVFCAM Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I'm sick of our constant giving away of the ball, 2 goals conceded from just giving the ball away. Inexperience is not the problem, most of that team had at least 30 Premier League starts under their belts, or at least top flight starts. For me, we are not better this than last, we've just had some freak results (Arsenal, Citeh and Southampton) that have kept our head s above the water.In my mind, Lambert should get until the beginning of January, with the brief of cutting out the schoolboy rubbish, giving the ball away, switching off (the cause of the first goal), bad decision making...he's had 18 months to do it. If by the beginning of Jan (another 3/4 games) we haven't progressed, I'd consider twisting...especially when you consider our next few games...we should seriously be looking to be pushing 25 points at the halfway stage.I'm just totally bored with our predictable collapse after we have handed them (a poor Man Yoo) the opening...Albrighton was good, although his poor crossing started to show towards the end. Gabby chases everything, the positive these days is that when he goes through his dry spell, he influences in other ways.I didn't notice that Benteke and Kozak switched, I'm not sure who that looks worse for...Benteke's form is awful, its like his legs were made of rubber...Baker is full of mistakes, as is Clark.Lambert out?! Not sure id go that far yet, but I, certainly done with watching this dross every week...7 points from 24 at home is disgraceful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Without Vlaar and Delph we were never going to get anything out of this. At least we gave them an awkward first 10 minutes before completely rolling over. Albrighton motm by a mile, Gabby gets marks for effort if not end product, and KEA put in a useful shift. Not a lot of positives other than that. Sylla was a lot better on the ball than he has been in previous games, but he offers surprisingly little in terms of breaking up the opposition play. I like Baker, but it's difficult to keep making excuses for his errors. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Doesn't matter who the opposition is, there is no excuse for complete incompetency and lack of effort. Pathetic. It seems to me that either Lambert doesn't know what he's doing or the players simply aren't listening to him (who knows, maybe it's both). Slightly concerned that we won't have the fight in us that we showed at the end of the last season to dig ourselves out of the trouble it seems we're heading for... Quite true. The opposition were Fulham last week and we made them look like Barcelona but they got spanked yesterday by a team that are not as clueless as us! This is kindergarden trolling. Thanks for the laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Another pathetic performance from a pathetic team put together by a pathetic manager who was appointed by a pathetic owner. This is pretty much nail on the head. And it's never going to end until Lerner sells up. God it's depressing being a Villa fan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaIRE Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Guzan 6 - Could have been tighter to his post for third. Luna 4 - Was run ragged, but in his defence, had no help all day from Agbonlahor Baker 3 - Awful. At fault for at least the 2nd goal and was slow to react to everything. Clark 5 - Not a good game and doesn't play well with Baker. Has been better this season but playing with Vlaar KEA 4 - I gave him a 4, but any game is rarely above 5. He's not a terrible footballer but just is not up to Premiership standard. Westwood 5 - Not great. Some passes were poor and those that connected weren't necessarily the right passes in the first place. Sylla 5 (Weimann 5) - tried, but lacks incisiveness and is too afraid to do much other than pass either backwards, or laterally. Agbonlahor 6 - two bright spells in the first half, but lacked quality today. Albrighton 7 - Probably the most effective today but wins no more than a 7 from me. Didn't seem to lack too much confidence and was prepared to take on his man. Benteke 6 (Kozak 5) - He'll again get the criticism versus his standard last season. He won a few good balls in the air. His first touch is lacking but again, the service to him was appalling. Even if he held up the ball well, there's nothing behind him as the midfield 3 are on the half way line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveburnside Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 That game was screaming out for Jordan Bowery! Ridiculous Lambo!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Annoying. Numerous things pissed me off. Luna, shocking. Benteke, get rid and rebuild or prolonged spell on the bench. Andi - bless him all our attacks broke down with him. The ref - every week we get shocking refs. Our crowd at times. It's predictable. Fans get on player's backs for not playing it forward. We rush it and play it forward. The other team gets the ball. And we don't learn from it. Thought we played some nice football at times. Albrighton looked great, beat Evra numerous times. Westy was spraying it around. Kozak looked good when he came on. All in all, much work to do. Also special mention to the stewards who didn't do their job at all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 More points than last season, rescued more points from losing positions than last season, key players injured and out of form, but people still moan. Did anyone honestly expect a win today? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Aren't we supposed to be improving under Lambert? Thought i'd gone back in time and Mcleish was still here..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 15, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted December 15, 2013 More points than last season, rescued more points from losing positions than last season, key players injured and out of form, but people still moan. Did anyone honestly expect a win today? Why not? I at least hoped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 **** it, have your rants people, vent after a frustrating loss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCAM Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 More points than last season, rescued more points from losing positions than last season, key players injured and out of form, but people still moan. Did anyone honestly expect a win today? I not bothered about the result, it's the complete lack of effort, the self destructive mistakes, the lack of progression and learning from mistakes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giro Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Albrighton was decent, baker was disgraceful Had enough of this, next season I can't be arsed, I'm done with this shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Doesn't matter who the opposition is, there is no excuse for complete incompetency and lack of effort. Pathetic. It seems to me that either Lambert doesn't know what he's doing or the players simply aren't listening to him (who knows, maybe it's both). Slightly concerned that we won't have the fight in us that we showed at the end of the last season to dig ourselves out of the trouble it seems we're heading for... Quite true. The opposition were Fulham last week and we made them look like Barcelona but they got spanked yesterday by a team that are not as clueless as us! This is kindergarden trolling. Thanks for the laugh The word you are looking for is 'kindergarten'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Guzan: 5 - beaten at his near post Lowton: 5 - has stopped getting fwd as much, better than Bacuna though Baker: 3 - gets worse each game Clark: 5 - average but not dreadful Luna: 3 - you'd be better off with a furby at left back - needs more midfield protection though Sylla: 4 - Useless most of the time Westwood: 5 - Gave it a good go KEA: 5 - Also worked hard Albrighton: 7 - best player by a mile, ran, crossed and attacked Gabby: 5 - Industry but no end product Benteke: 0 - On this form there is just no point him being on the pitch Subs all 4. That seems about right for me Never really expected to get anything out of the game but after an encouraging start, stupid errors knocked the stuffing out of us Luna and Baker were very poor, although neither looked match fit. Luna needed some support dealing with Valencia who is a class act KEA and Sylla gave effort but are not in the same class as even a below-par MU midfield It wasn't a particularly effective performance from Westwood, but all credit to him for not hiding - I thought he was always looking for the ball, just not able to do much when he got it Albrighton our best player by turning in a generally average perfromance Gabby tried hard but perhaps a more disciplned performance would have helped the team Benteke very very poor again. It's world cup year so I can't buy into the no interest theory more like no confidence Kozak showed briefly when coming on Vlaar and Delph badly missed Weimann has had a shake-up and hopefully will be back to something like against Stoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordSepulchrave Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Totally predictable. Unless our strikeforce get firing this is going to be a(nother) long season. The good news is that Souness on Sky seems to have solved our problems - more long balls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Aren't we supposed to be improving under Lambert? Thought i'd gone back in time and Mcleish was still here..... You're wrong.....crap today but an entirely different kind of crap than under McL Albrighton was decent, baker was disgraceful Had enough of this, next season I can't be arsed, I'm done with this shite Bye-bye, thanks for coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveyjohnus Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Lambo fairly dejected in the post match interview. Even if we had a bucket load of cash to spend in January, who would we realistically be able to sign that would improve us? Nobody in their right mind would want to join us at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Without Vlaar .. the defence is terrible .. I was afraid tbh of 5 or 6 .. Although when I saw the line up I felt better .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giro Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Aren't we supposed to be improving under Lambert? Thought i'd gone back in time and Mcleish was still here..... You're wrong.....crap today but an entirely different kind of crap than under McL Albrighton was decent, baker was disgraceful Had enough of this, next season I can't be arsed, I'm done with this shite Bye-bye, thanks for coming Yes I'll spend 400 a year on this tripe, I get no enjoyment out of it but hey it's all about supporting the team ain't it. I can't justify spending money to watch this crap anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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