turnbull Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Draw specialists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villan_007 Posted November 30, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2013 The Mcleish comparison is embarrassing - not sure how you can type it as a grown up football fan - short memories. We paased and moved all game - the fact is our 3 forwards aren't at the races right now, and they haven't played together for a number of games. 10th in the league, unbeaten in 4, second clean sheet at home. Typical villa fans, want lambert burnt at the stake becuase our defense is rubbish, he fixes that and they find another stick to beat him with. Embarrasment the lot of ya. Lets sack him and start again yeah??? sick of it. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Clark MOTM. Poor performance. On the bright side we couldn't buy a clean sheet last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 (edited) I think Beneteke is getting frustrated by constantly having to fight for chest high balls with his back to goal, three opponents around him and very little support, and getting no 50/50 decisions from the ref today. Albrighton put in some decent crosses when he came on, and looked like his first thought every time he got the ball was to get a cross into the box, it was nice to see that positivity. Edited November 30, 2013 by poitier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 The Mcleish comparison is embarrassing - not sure how you can type it as a grown up football fan - short memories. We paased and moved all game - the fact is our 3 forwards aren't at the races right now, and they haven't played together for a number of games. 10th in the league, unbeaten in 4, second clean sheet at home. Typical villa fans, want lambert burnt at the stake becuase our defense is rubbish, he fixes that and they find another stick to beat him with. Embarrasment the lot of ya. Lets sack him and start again yeah??? sick of it. Funny, I don't remember the post which compared today's football to that of McLeish calling for Lambert to be sacked. Maybe that bit was in invisible ink. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Awful game. I don't know what's wrong with Benteke, but if he was in form we'd be good enough to win games like this easily. Sunderland defended brilliantly though. Really left us no room to play creatively even if we were capable of it. The ref didn't help, but rather that sort of show than a red card and penalty fest imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 The Mcleish comparison is embarrassing - not sure how you can type it as a grown up football fan - short memories. We paased and moved all game - the fact is our 3 forwards aren't at the races right now, and they haven't played together for a number of games. 10th in the league, unbeaten in 4, second clean sheet at home. Typical villa fans, want lambert burnt at the stake becuase our defense is rubbish, he fixes that and they find another stick to beat him with. Embarrasment the lot of ya. Lets sack him and start again yeah??? sick of it. Funny, I don't remember the post which compared today's football to that of McLeish calling for Lambert to be sacked. Maybe that bit was in invisible ink. The comparisons are a few pages back, try reading other peoples posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted November 30, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2013 Not sure we can actually credit the defence for that clean sheet. They missed one of the easiest chances I've ever aeen, hit the bar and should have had a penalty. Sorry I went to the game guys. Good luck for the 26th and 28th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 That was Mcleish esque. No plan B and incredibly one dimensional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 (edited) That was Mcleish esque. No plan B and incredibly one dimensional. Huh? So Lambert didn't bring on two wingers to try and get more balls out wide? Albrighton actually wiped in some good balls but his first-touch let him down when it mattered. I'm pretty sure that's called a 'Plan B'. Edited November 30, 2013 by The_Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biskitt Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 I didn't actually think gabby was that great today, was good in flashes but some of the positions he was taking up were baffling. When he's direct and running at players, he looks threatening but isn't doing it enough in the areas that matter. No goals all season as well is pretty poor for a forward player. Vlaar MOTD for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chap of Steel Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 "It was not a classic but if you can't win a game then don't lose it." - Lambert post match.I think after many matches that had stupid goals being conceded last season, Lambert has lent towards the defensive side.It's not pretty but it has meant that we have been more stable, especially as our league position is concerned. As above I echo the worries that not taking points from winnable games could lead to future problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1974Centenary Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 It's actually because we have a shite manager who has purchased shite players I don't know how anyone can actually believe this. Then you must be wearing blinkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post terrytini Posted November 30, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2013 Not sure we can actually credit the defence for that clean sheet. They missed one of the easiest chances I've ever aeen, hit the bar and should have had a penalty. Sorry I went to the game guys. Good luck for the 26th and 28th. Well there is Villa Fans mentality all over ! I know it hasn't been an easy few years guys but get a grip ! So our players are shit, our Manager clueless, the defence were terrible now they are lucky, the attack were lucky now they are terrible, Benteke is a waste of space, we never practice set pieces, Lambert has the tactical nous of a 4 year old and the Team are doomed.............I had to check the table to make sur ewe weren't bottom !! Yet 4 games unbeaten, the Clean Sheet Tally - that was of concern to the doomongers - fixed, and he has not been able to put out a fully fit first eleven all season. (These same players who cant kick a ball scored six against the same side last year ? ) We looked comfortable defensively, midfield held the ball ok, but we lacked penetration. That's about it. Yes it was dull entertainment wise, not for the first time (but so are a great many matches, regularly, across the League) but as can't be said often enough we are coming out of casualty and different aspects ar eslowly being attended to. Surely even the biggest critic can see some zip has been sacrificed to improve defensively. That isn't the whole story, but it is clearly one of the changes from the second half of last season. My only criticism of the Manager today was how long he stuck with Benteke. I was suprised, because he quickly recognised last year - correctly IMO, and against the wishes of the few who bemoan our lack of 'quality' - that having a statuesque front man in Bent was a luxury and impinged upon the high powered style he wanted. For today, after 15/20 minutes, it seemed clear Benteke was that man. I am sure PL has the bottle to substitute him so would be interested to know why he didn't. To me, his lack of mobility in that central area was a key to our play breaking down in the final third. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Poor performance that lacked any real energy or belief that we could win the game. We really do struggle to create chances and it looks like its counter attack or nothing. I thought lambert could have gone 4-4-2 a bit earlier as it was obvious much earlier in the second half that 4-3-3 wasn't working. We badly need some creativity in the side. As for people giving out about benteke's work rate, pretty sure it's never been that great and certainly never consistent over 90mins. He just needs a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 It's actually because we have a shite manager who has purchased shite players I don't know how anyone can actually believe this. Then you must be wearing blinkers. Concievably we could end this weekend in the top 10 after 13 games this season. Not bad and certainly not shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 I think the only reason not to drop Benteke is the fact that if he somehow suddenly gets going we have a monster who will win us every game now that we're keeping clean sheets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 The Mcleish comparison is embarrassing - not sure how you can type it as a grown up football fan - short memories. We paased and moved all game - the fact is our 3 forwards aren't at the races right now, and they haven't played together for a number of games. 10th in the league, unbeaten in 4, second clean sheet at home. Typical villa fans, want lambert burnt at the stake becuase our defense is rubbish, he fixes that and they find another stick to beat him with. Embarrasment the lot of ya. Lets sack him and start again yeah??? sick of it. Funny, I don't remember the post which compared today's football to that of McLeish calling for Lambert to be sacked. Maybe that bit was in invisible ink. The comparisons are a few pages back, try reading other peoples posts. Maybe my post was a bit too subtle for you to understand. Here are the comparisons with Mcleish: Mcleish esque. Has to be said were easily as bad if not worse at home under lambert than we were under mcleish in terms of style and results. It's actually because we have a shite manager who has purchased shite players I don't know how anyone can actually believe this. Because the football is dreadful? Today was woeful, as bad as anything McLeish would have served up. On the back of this, you launched a rant about how people are calling for Lambert to be burnt at the stake, sacked, etc. My simple point was that no-one in any of those posts called for Lambert to be burnt at the stake or sacked, so your rant is completely baseless. Is that clear enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 We had some key players looking very rusty at best out there. Delph has just come back into the team and was not his normal, influential self. Weimann was ineffective and Benteke has looked cumbersome and ineffective all season. Of them all, Gabby looked the brightest. I'd really like to see Lowton come back just so Bacuna can move up into midfield, but 4 clean sheets in the last 7 suggests he may be needed at RB, as he's a big part of those clean sheets. We're a stale team, with little appetite for passing, moving and creating space. I've long thought our players suffer from a poor first touch - long before Lambert joined - thus requiring more time on the ball to invite the opposition to press us. Combine that with poor passing we're never going to be very cohesive in our play. Overhit / misguided/ underhit passes and a poor first touch is a rotten combo. Compare that to some of the moves that teams like Arsenal put together. Add in the lack of someone with good dribbling and close control skills and you're always going to struggle against teams that park the bus. Our best weapon, Benteke, is in woeful form so it's hard to see where a goal was coming from today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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