Guest av1 Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 On 08/04/2016 at 22:30, HanoiVillan said: No amount of money can buy you health, as you know. This.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post H Posted May 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2016 It surprises me how many people here have experience of mental health, although I wonder whether it's just that sufferers are more drawn to internet forums because self-esteem and confidence and social skills aren't in evidence and people can't actually see you. I was diagnosed with recurrent clinical depression some eight years ago and suffered pretty badly for around four years. I had a bit of a breakdown in 2010 and that was probably my worst point. I had lots and lots of different counselling and found none of it helpful. It didn't help that the NHS kept shutting down all the clinics and moving the counsellors around so practically every time I went for a session, I saw somebody different and had to tell them my story all over again. I was also tried on three different types of antidepressants throughout a year or so and none of them made any difference - at which point my doctor just told me I was probably in the 1% or so of people that medication wouldn't work on so she just took me off them completely. Hence the breakdown so that was helpful... I finally got back on track and things were okay for a few years. In January of this year it all came crashing down again and I had a really awful two or three months. I finally decided to go back to the doctor, was put on a fairly high dose of Sertraline and referred for more counselling. The medication really seems to be working this time around and I'm feeling pretty good right now. I don't find counselling helpful but I'm willing to give it a go - however, it's a good job I'm feeling better because there's a seven month waiting list even for a first appointment which to me seems utterly ridiculous. Anyway, now I start each day afresh, I take it one day at a time and concentrate on the day ahead rather than what happened yesterday or what might happen tomorrow. Different things work for different people and if your medication isn't working out, don't be afraid to get it changed because this particular medication has had a major effect on me where three others didn't. Oh, and don't self medicate with alcohol because all that does is bring on massive sleep loss which really impacts on your overall mood during the day. I still drink far more than I should but I don't drink at home anymore and my sleeping pattern has improved dramatically. Bad days can be really bad but they do end and a new day does begin. All you can do is get through that bad day and keep starting again. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Depression has really started to creep back in these last few months and can't help but feel it's getting on top of me again. I'm stuck on jury service for the next month+. Can barely get any sleep at night. Work is shit, money is tight, social life has been reduced to the point where it barely exists. Feel like I should stop putting off seeing my doctor, but I don't like wasting their time and I know there's nothing he's going to say that's going to change anything. Just frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 On May 28, 2016 at 08:11, H said: Bad days can be really bad but they do end and a new day does begin. All you can do is get through that bad day and keep starting again sounds like you have a good grip on things. i started sertraline 3 months ago, and it's definitely helped my anxiousness and general mood. much more outgoing lately, to the point where some people probably think i'm a maniac, lol...and maybe i am, who knows for sure never give up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, kurtsimonw said: Depression has really started to creep back in these last few months and can't help but feel it's getting on top of me again. I'm stuck on jury service for the next month+. Can barely get any sleep at night. Work is shit, money is tight, social life has been reduced to the point where it barely exists. Feel like I should stop putting off seeing my doctor, but I don't like wasting their time and I know there's nothing he's going to say that's going to change anything. Just frustrating. do you take medication for depression...have you looked into other doctors...sorry, my shift key is ****, so i can't type question marks keep pushing on man. as shit as life can be, its a whole lot more interesting than the alternative. you've got good friends on here, i always remember that for myself whenever i feel socially unfulfilled in my day to day life. vt is a one stop shop for most of the things i like to talk about, we've really got a cool thing here. chin up kurt, i know that sounds flippant, but its still good advice Edited August 22, 2016 by maqroll 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) Yea Kurt, get over it you big sad bastard. I jest. Hope you feel better soon! At least Villa are doing their bit at the moment. Edited August 22, 2016 by lapal_fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 22, 2016 Moderator Share Posted August 22, 2016 12 hours ago, kurtsimonw said: Feel like I should stop putting off seeing my doctor, but I don't like wasting their time and I know there's nothing he's going to say that's going to change anything. You are not wasting their time Kurt. That's what they're there for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 3 months without a panic attack. 2 months off pills. Go to the doctor Kurt. It helps so much. It's your life. Take control back. Don't be a slave to your own mind. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villaglint Posted August 22, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 22, 2016 15 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: At least Villa are doing their bit at the moment. Lapal please don't encourage people to base their mental state on the success or otherwise of our great football team, I think that would see you in the dock for manslaughter before too long. Kurt - definitely do see your doctor. No doubt you've been down that road before which is why you FEEL like nothing will change but remember that's the illness talking which is the very thing you want to change. Exercise - natures anti depressants, the right medication and talking do help and I'm sure many people on here can vouch for that. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RimmyJimmer Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 3 hours ago, villaglint said: Lapal please don't encourage people to base their mental state on the success or otherwise of our great football team, I think that would see you in the dock for manslaughter before too long. Kurt - definitely do see your doctor. No doubt you've been down that road before which is why you FEEL like nothing will change but remember that's the illness talking which is the very thing you want to change. Exercise - natures anti depressants, the right medication and talking do help and I'm sure many people on here can vouch for that. I would recommend to anyone with anxiety/depression issues the importance of exercise. Running in particular...it has an unbelievably calming effect on your physical and mental state. I'm no doctor, but this, combined with cutting out alcohol and/or other drugs gives you a much better chance of getting better. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Thanks guys. I'll see if I can get in with my doctor. I tend to put things off far too much. Took me 10 years to see my doctor about it in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 22, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 22, 2016 2 hours ago, RimmyJimmer said: I would recommend to anyone with anxiety/depression issues the importance of exercise. Running in particular...it has an unbelievably calming effect on your physical and mental state. I'm no doctor, but this, combined with cutting out alcohol and/or other drugs gives you a much better chance of getting better. Being a keen runner, I'm bound to agree with this. But I'd add - running OUTSIDE (preferably off-road), not on a treadmill in a gym. It does make a difference. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RimmyJimmer Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Just now, mjmooney said: Being a keen runner, I'm bound to agree with this. But I'd add - running OUTSIDE (preferably off-road), not on a treadmill in a gym. It does make a difference. Oh yes, definitely outside. I have had a succession of injuries in the last year which has prevented me from running....and I have been a lot more tense if late!! Walking & cycling are good too...oh and I've recently taken up camping, which is also very relaxing. Yes, it's definitely the outdoors that does it for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Exercise is good but it has to be the right amount because although it will definitely give you an endorphin high on the day, feeling crap the next day or so can feel like depression. Running is good for those who can do it and put up with the indignity but walking works equally well and in my experience the endorphin lift starts at around 30 minutes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 bicycling is my thing, cuz my joints can't handle running anymore. my life would be measurably worse if i didn't ride my bike. does wonders for feeling good mentally, as well as physically. i'm on sertraline too, and it works great, except its not easy reaching orgasm, which is not always a bad thing if you plan being superman for the night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikantcpell Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I have a friend who suffered quite bad from a depression a few years ago, she got put on anti dep, but that didnt do much for her. It wasn't until she started taking extra vitamin D that she really got back up. If you are feeling bad you should try it, do wonders for some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 On 22/08/2016 at 23:13, StefanAVFC said: 3 months without a panic attack. 2 months off pills. Go to the doctor Kurt. It helps so much. It's your life. Take control back. Don't be a slave to your own mind. Hey Stefan. Interesting to see that you've had issues as well. Genuine question - seeing as you've entered a committed relationship recently, I was wondering if you could comment on how you manage having panic attacks with having to be part of (what I assume to be) an equal relationship. I am a recovering long-term depressive myself, and as I've started to recover in recent times and seen my dating life improve by leaps and bounds, it's been something I've been thinking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 On 23/08/2016 at 02:24, RimmyJimmer said: I would recommend to anyone with anxiety/depression issues the importance of exercise. Running in particular...it has an unbelievably calming effect on your physical and mental state. I'm no doctor, but this, combined with cutting out alcohol and/or other drugs gives you a much better chance of getting better. In my experience, it was improvement in mental state that came before the exercise bit. Only after a substantial degree of improvement did I find myself having the motivation and energy levels to restart a running routine. Obviously recovery processes will differ from person to person, but that's just my two cents from my subjective anecdotal expeorience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 It is important to talk. There are obviously people out there ( doctors, therapists, etc.) who are paid to listen, but please don't underestimate the support you can get from your family and friends. If you are approached by someone who is hurting, please reassure them. They may feel like they are being a burden. You don't have to say much, but having someone who listens would be helpful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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