Vive_La_Villa Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Xela said: Do you think doctors prescribe anti depressants too quickly now? Or not? Yes. I was given seroxat for years which although helped made me very tired all the time. All I did was sleep. I was off and on it for a long time Then one day I saw a different doctor who was surprised that I had been taking that original ssri for so long and prescribed me a different one which helped without the tiredness (although I have put a lot of weight on). Basically it just feels like they are all having a stab in the dark. But then I guess what else can they do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 8 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Can I ask for those of the older generation was desperation as common as it is now back then? My grandmother (born in 1912) had electroshock therapy back in the 40's. She wasn't "crazy", but had a hard time getting out of bed and raising her daughters. I think she was depressive. I have a feeling that these conditions can be really varied while falling on the same spectrum. I think that they can be genetic and also environmental, and often a combination. But yeah, I think it's always been around. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 13 hours ago, Xela said: Do you think doctors prescribe anti depressants too quickly now? Or not? I do think they do. For example a friend of mine has a bad back and it gets him down. So what do they painkillers and anti depressents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted February 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 6, 2018 Quote The Anatomy of Melancholy (full title: The Anatomy of Melancholy, What it is: With all the Kinds, Causes, Symptomes, Prognostickes, and Several Cures of it. In Three Maine Partitions with their several Sections, Members, and Subsections. Philosophically, Medicinally, Historically, Opened and Cut Up) is a book by Robert Burton, first published in 1621, but republished four more times over the next seventeen years with massive alterations and expansions. On its surface, the book is presented as a medical textbook in which Burton applies his vast and varied learning, in the scholastic manner, to the subject of melancholia (which includes, although it is not limited to, what is now termed clinical depression). Though presented as a medical text, The Anatomy of Melancholy is as much a sui generis work of literature as it is a scientific or philosophical text, and Burton addresses far more than his stated subject. In fact, the Anatomy uses melancholy as the lens through which all human emotion and thought may be scrutinized, and virtually the entire contents of a 17th-century library are marshalled into service of this goal. It is encyclopedic in its range and reference. Wiki 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post leemond2008 Posted February 15, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 15, 2018 On 22/01/2018 at 20:59, leemond2008 said: I've been meaning to post in this thread for quite a while now but haven't actually got around it. There is a lad that I work with and we became good mates, I knew that he had suffered with depression in the past but it seems to have came back with a vengeance, he's been off work since November, he came back last week but only managed a few hours before leaving, he's not been back in since. I often drop him a message and see how he is doing, some days we'll have a good chat and be bouncing messages back and forth just chatting shit but then other days I'll ask him how he's getting on and he will say something like 'I'm not going to lie mate, I feel like shit, constantly I was dead, having extreme mood swings, terrible anxiety and just generally feeling shit' I mean how the **** do I reply to that? we've had a few good chats about it but ultimately I can't do anything else except for say 'keep you chin up, let me know if you want to chat' I feel pretty useless. I try not to broach the subject and try to keep things as lighthearted as possible because I don't want to come across as though I'm checking up on him all the time. Its difficult to know if he appreciates the contact or if it would be better to just leave him alone and let him get in touch when he feels up to it. He is getting help and he is due to see someone this week to see if they can get his meds sorted for him. Isn't it funny how times change. Since I posted that at the end of January I've pretty much had a full on breakdown myself, to the point that I was pretty much forced to leave works premises because they were worried about me. I very nearly had full on meltdown at work purely because of the amount of work that they was piling on me. When I posted the quoted message I had no idea how close I was to the edge myself, it all boiled over at work and now I find myself on the receiving end of the "mental health" shit, I was plumbing the depths without knowing it, I managed to catch it before it got too bad and things are already feeling better for me. I'll talk more about my own situation later when I feel up for it, but the one person who has helped me out and been a proper friend is the very one I was concerned About in the quote above 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, leemond2008 said: Isn't it funny how times change. Since I posted that at the end of January I've pretty much had a full on breakdown myself, to the point that I was pretty much forced to leave works premises because they were worried about me. I very nearly had full on meltdown at work purely because of the amount of work that they was piling on me. When I posted the quoted message I had no idea how close I was to the edge myself, it all boiled over at work and now I find myself on the receiving end of the "mental health" shit, I was plumbing the depths without knowing it, I managed to catch it before it got too bad and things are already feeling better for me. I'll talk more about my own situation later when I feel up for it, but the one person who has helped me out and been a proper friend is the very one I was concerned About in the quote above Absolutely mate and you will know when that time is right for you to talk. Good on him for the equal helping extended hand, out of interest how is he fairing himself nowadays? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, leemond2008 said: Isn't it funny how times change. Since I posted that at the end of January I've pretty much had a full on breakdown myself, to the point that I was pretty much forced to leave works premises because they were worried about me. I very nearly had full on meltdown at work purely because of the amount of work that they was piling on me. When I posted the quoted message I had no idea how close I was to the edge myself, it all boiled over at work and now I find myself on the receiving end of the "mental health" shit, I was plumbing the depths without knowing it, I managed to catch it before it got too bad and things are already feeling better for me. I'll talk more about my own situation later when I feel up for it, but the one person who has helped me out and been a proper friend is the very one I was concerned About in the quote above Hope you are alright mate. The people that can help are the people that have experienced it. It's hard for someone to understand the feeling of severe depression if they have never felt it. From my experience all I can say is even though it doesn't feel like it at the time. It does get better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 On 04/02/2018 at 20:47, Ingram85 said: Medication does work for a lot of people, I work with people who when on them are the nicest and the personality change when off them is too much to be a placebo affect. I had a friend who was very much like this. The change is like two different people altogether.. on them - he was nice as pie, interactive, socialable, helpful etc. Off them - a complete opposite, time waster, twisted, vindictive, generally turned into a total cock type of manerism. He'd been on them for years but the difference was so bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Hope you are alright mate. The people that can help are the people that have experienced it. It's hard for someone to understand the feeling of severe depression if they have never felt it. From my experience all I can say is even though it doesn't feel like it at the time. It does get better. It's bloody horrible and it can feel such a dark, lonely, empty place at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 On 05/02/2018 at 18:29, StefanAVFC said: My head is a bit all over the place at the moment. No idea what I want with anything. Do you have an idea what you think you want but at the same time don't know what you want or how to go about getting there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Prob irrelevance to this thread but we had a 74 yr old woman out tonight in our town who had gone missing. (Alzhemers apparantly) Alot of the town helped out in searching for her and after a 5 hour search and police helicopters etc she has thankfully been found. Me and the wee one decided in helping in the search eventually for around an hour so hopefully we have done our good deed for the day. Cannot be nice to go through such an ordeal for the releatives connected etc. or for the person with the terrible illness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 45 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Prob irrelevance to this thread but we had a 74 yr old woman out tonight in our town who had gone missing. (Alzhemers apparantly) Alot of the town helped out in searching for her and after a 5 hour search and police helicopters etc she has thankfully been found. Me and the wee one decided in helping in the search eventually for around an hour so hopefully we have done our good deed for the day. Cannot be nice to go through such an ordeal for the releatives connected etc. or for the person with the terrible illness. We had one turn up at our house a few weeks back. She was stubbing around in the front garden, then walked past our window. It was dark outside, and it shit me up when I saw her at the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted February 16, 2018 Moderator Share Posted February 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: We had one turn up at our house a few weeks back. She was stubbing around in the front garden, then walked past our window. It was dark outside, and it shit me up when I saw her at the window. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Antidepressants really do work, study suggests Quote The world's largest study into the effectiveness of antidepressants has shown that the drugs really do work. They work but not for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, coda said: Antidepressants really do work, study suggests They work but not for everyone. I cant say for most but only the people I know who took them they didnt work, what helped them was them having the strength to be happy and realise the good things going on their lives. If there wasn't they made steps to correct those to do so. But everyone is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chindie Posted February 22, 2018 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2018 Having the strength to be happy? Christ. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Only available on iplayer until saturday but there was a documentary on the BBC with Charlotte Church and some brain scan imaging in Cardiff which was quite interesting. https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b09pb8rl/charlotte-church-inside-my-brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted February 22, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 22, 2018 48 minutes ago, Chindie said: Having the strength to be happy? Christ. That was my reaction too... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted February 22, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, Designer1 said: That was my reaction too... Ran it through a filter first. I think I'm going to sack everything off this afternoon, spend it finding the strength to be happy, and all my problems will fade away. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted February 22, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 22, 2018 59 minutes ago, Chindie said: Having the strength to be happy? Christ. I can understand your reaction Chindie but I don't think it's particularly helpful. We've come a long way in understanding mental health issues in the last few years but not everyone is caught up yet. It's incumbent on all of us (particularly those who have an insight into how painful it is) to help others understand the complexities of the subject and I'm not convinced responding with a roley eye gif (or similar) does that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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